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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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27 Mar 2014 23:09 #1
by noeleire (noel)
hi lads i have a 600 lt tank and have started keeping tropheus moori the problem is that the tap water is just over 7.2 ph i am using jbl ph buffer its just works out to deer doing water changes i have heard that you can raise the ph with sea salt and bread soda can anybody tell me if this is true if what is the mix ,, thanks
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27 Mar 2014 23:14 #2
by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I haven't tried sea salt or bread soda, but do you not have coral gravel/sand in your setup?
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28 Mar 2014 00:08 #3
by davey_c (dave clarke)
I was just thinking the same as lemonjelly, coral sand along with ocean rock and your set

Personally I wouldn't be using buffers because I couldn't see the water staying stable depending on whats in the tank
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29 Mar 2014 09:56 #4
by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
A bag of coral sand into the filter would be the job!!!
Some ocean rock as the lads have suggested would also help with the water chemistry
I think its a far better option than chemical adjusters as they never cause long term effects on the water!
I started out using these chemicals on my tank (a long time ago) and found them to work for almost 24hrs before the ph became unstable again and the fish would end up stressed! Instead now I use Filtax tormec active to reduce the ph from 7.4 (at the tap) to 6.2 (in the tank). Mine has to be adjusted down due to keeping south american cichlids
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29 Mar 2014 10:46 #5
by Xaribdis (Lorcan O' Brien)
I would agree with thte lads above- it is much more important to have a stable pH rather than try to hit something the internet suggests is an ideal biotope level. Using coral gravel, as Hammie suggests, will allow you to keep a more stable water chemistry than any shop bought tonic. I keep Tangynikans and just use tap water in the tank, buffered by the coral sand in there, to about 7.2-7.4 and by the way they are breeding at the moment, doesn't seem to be doing any harm!
Also, most of the fish we buy in LFS are bred by fish breeders in tap water, so will be more capable of accepting a wider range of water chemistry.
LoB
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29 Mar 2014 12:41 #6
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Coral sand/gravel is a buffer and a chemical.
For Tropheus, do not use sea salt.
I would recommend coral gravel/sand at the least with good water changes to keep the RedOx refreshed.
If the water is drifting towards the acidic, then review feeding and water changes first off before considering addition of any salt combinations.
I am guessing that these are not wild caught Tropheus.
pH is not the most important parameter when keeping Tropheus.....so don't kill your fish messing with one of the least important parameters.
ian
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29 Mar 2014 17:26 #7
by dubdero (derek kearns)
Kept tropheus and other tangs myself used coral sand and tufa rock when had tropheus.Used same ph up as you when I kept normal tangs as well as coral sand and tufa rock. Didnt risk p.h up with the tropheus as was afraid in case something might go wrong.and fish bred without it .My take on it is if fish breed something is right.
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