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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Are plants from an Ich-affected tank OK to reuse?

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08 Sep 2015 21:49 #1 by ThirstyOto (Dan Hodgkin)
Hi All,

My old 56L tank recently suffered an outbreak of whitespot. I treated with Protozin for the full course, and all the remaining fish are now looking healthy and living in new quarters. I have a collection of various healthy and well-established Anubias plant species in the old tank, and I would love to be able to save them. Obviously, I have concerns about the risks of introducing Ich parasites into the new aquarium with these plants.

Would a bleach-bath of the plants be sufficient to kill off possible Ich? Or am I being incredibly naive and would be better off putting my prize plants on the compost heap, instead?

Thanks in advance!
Dan.

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08 Sep 2015 22:50 - 08 Sep 2015 22:55 #2 by alan 64 (alan)
Did u treat the fish in the old tank plus I don't think the ich could live in the tank with no life in it I maybe wrong but isn't one part of its life stages when it lives on fish so if there are no fish there can the cycle continue
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08 Sep 2015 23:35 #3 by ThirstyOto (Dan Hodgkin)

Did u treat the fish in the old tank plus I don't think the ich could live in the tank with no life in it I maybe wrong but isn't one part of its life stages when it lives on fish so if there are no fish there can the cycle continue


Thanks, Alan

Yes, the fish were treated in the old tank, so hopefully killed a lot of the Ich. And I believe you are right that one of it's four life-stages is where it lives on/in the fish and it needs that to continue. I had forgotten about that, so thanks, you make an excellent point. Maybe all I need to do then, is to tough it out for long enough that it breaks the Ich's life cycle. Am I right in thinking that it's about four weeks in all? Can I speed this up by upping the temperature (bearing in mind that I only have the plants to worry about at this stage)?

All advice much appreciated!

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09 Sep 2015 11:39 #4 by alan 64 (alan)
Are there just anubias in there

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09 Sep 2015 14:51 #5 by gunnered72 (Eddy Gunnered)
In the tank with the plants only turn up the temp to 28 degrees and run the anti whitespot treatment through the tank twice..The little buggers are sure to have bedded down in the gravel..Turning the temp up will burst them into their free swimming stage quicker at which point the treatment will kill them..This is all assuming there are no fish ( hosts) in the tank

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09 Sep 2015 15:49 #6 by helix8008 (Tomas Novak)
If you medically treated the fish in tank with plants the virus is already killed if you as you breaker the cycle during treatment. To be on safe side you can increase temp as mentioned for week or 2, but I don't think medication is necessary if you don't have any live stock in there. Parasite need host to survive.

I think the cycle is more like 2-3 weeks.

Tom

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09 Sep 2015 21:13 #7 by ThirstyOto (Dan Hodgkin)

Are there just anubias in there


Several Anubias of different types and two small crypts (c. wendtii and c. wendtii var. "brown"). Nothing else.

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09 Sep 2015 21:23 #8 by ThirstyOto (Dan Hodgkin)

If you medically treated the fish in tank with plants the virus is already killed if you as you breaker the cycle during treatment. To be on safe side you can increase temp as mentioned for week or 2, but I don't think medication is necessary if you don't have any live stock in there. Parasite need host to survive.

I think the cycle is more like 2-3 weeks.

Tom


Thanks, Tom,
Yes, they were treated in the same tank as the plants, so that's good news, thank you!

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09 Sep 2015 21:31 #9 by ThirstyOto (Dan Hodgkin)

In the tank with the plants only turn up the temp to 28 degrees and run the anti whitespot treatment through the tank twice..The little buggers are sure to have bedded down in the gravel..Turning the temp up will burst them into their free swimming stage quicker at which point the treatment will kill them..This is all assuming there are no fish ( hosts) in the tank


Thank you kindly, Gunnered!
I turned the heat up to around 28 last night, but haven't run a whitespot treatment in the tank since the fish were removed some days ago. I think I will go ahead and do that, as I have plenty of the stuff left. There are absolutely no potential hosts left in the 55L (unless a few die-hard snails count...)?

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09 Sep 2015 22:54 #10 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I would actually say go towards 30-32c...the plants should still be fine...treat the tank if you want also just to be certain...there are strains of ich that can be v difficult to get rid off...i went 6 years without ich and last year had the worst strain of ich i ever encountered...took me close to 2 months to fully rid the tank of it despite using several methods to rid it. I lost a few fish from it also.

Gavin

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10 Sep 2015 07:09 #11 by helix8008 (Tomas Novak)
Here is some good info about ich www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=16+2160&aid=2421

So apparently parasites cannot survive more than 48 h without attaching to host. With higher temp life cycle if only few days.

Good prevention is healthy fish and low stress levels, but every fish keeper will encounter outbreak at some stage as these parasites are very common.

Tom

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