Goldfish problem,

Hi
Just noticed one of my gold fish has some very small dust like specks on its tail. Any ideas?

Pat

If it is white it is the early signs of white spot. if your tanks mates are suitable I would add some tonic salt and check my water if you have a heather i would also slowly but temp up to thirty. another option is salt water bath mix the salt in a suitable sized bowl with some tank water and allow the gold fish to swim in it for a while there are also plenty of treatments out there for it.

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Mickey

Hi Mickey and guys

Thanks again for the info, I got some interpet anti white spot and on reading the instruction I noticed that I have to remove carbon and zeolite filters before treatment, I have no idea which these are or even if they are in my filter, jewel 240 internal filter. any ideas? I've turned up the temp as you advised.
Once I've treated the poor little fellas, I think I'll put them in my pond as I think I really should have cycled my tank without fish. I'm worried that they might create problems for future residents. I'll miss them but it for a greater good...

Pat

Hi all,

have been treating my tank for fin rot added tetra treatment on thursday after doing a 20% water change and removing my activated carbon but have now noticed a couple of white spots on my oranda and Fan tail goldfish can i add white spot treatment i have some WS3 white spot treatment in the house but am unsure if i can add this while the other treatment is in the tank but would like to terminate the whitespot at this early stage,
!!!

You should ideally do a 50% water change and add some carbon for a couple of days before adding another treatment. However, time is not on your side so probably best to do a 50% water change and add the new treatment.

How are your water parameters? Illnesses like these are usually due to water quality issues or adding infected stock.

white spot...
usually treatments aren't supposed to be used at the same time, especially if they're made by two different companies...If they're made by same check booklet that comes with them. If it says nothing I'd go with the thought that they are not supposed to be used together.

so large water change, ie30% or more. raise temp (2degrees per 24hrs) as far as you can without effecting fish. (would be good to add carbon for a day in between water change and adding new meds, but you might not have time for this as whitespot spreeds quickly from fish to fish) check that medication is still in date!

just re-read your post...you've got fin rot aswell....not nice!!! try to get esha2000 think it treats both, treats 18things so I'm nearly sure they're two of them.if you can't find it local you'll get it on ebay.(www.eshalabs.com is web site if you want to check what it treats, to make sure) another way is to raise temp and add aquarium salt to correct dosage.(don't know how well oranda and goldfish cope with salt. have never had to do it with mine. so might be an idea to do this slowly and keep an eye on them if possible).
methlyene blue will also treat both, but be warned it will damage plants and kill bacteria in your filter and turn any white things blue and perhap be more hassle...but if you had a hospital/spare tank it could be done...some people say you can bath fish in this solution for a while some say not, that it causes more stress.(if you have a free tank and are going for this option leave the infected tank fish less for over 5days and this will make sure that others don't get whitespot. whitespot goes through a cycle that needs a host/fish to complete it...no fish, no whitespot)
gentian violet (advailable from some chemists) can also be applied topically to fin rot.
would try if possible to treat for both as whitespot can disrupt the fish skin and leave them vunerable to a fungus or bacterial infection.

hope this helps

Orla

Ken S is also right about the water forgot to mention that.(was typing and making tea while he posted) all these things are usually present in water waiting for an opertune moment when the fish get stressed.

would also say that I've read in a few places now that whitespot can be caused by 'chilling' this can be as little as the fish getting cold on it's way home from the shop, or doing a water change and refilling with cold(er) water.usually a temp decrease of over 2 degrees.

on the bright side...it is said that fish that survive whitespot gain a partial immunity to it:)

so hopefully all will be well again soon

Just a quick note on eSha2000 it was in Petstop the other day.

and here is a link about it:

www.eshalabs.com/esha2000.htm

have to say meds should not be mixed as can be counter effective or cause over dose(says the guy who has done so)

If you have some tonic salt add that(not household) or a little marine salt goldfish can handle this but most fresh water problems can not but check that the other tank inhabitants can take salt first. rise the tank temp to about thirty would also be helpful done slowly and when white spot has cleared up reduce slowly

there is a post on the life cycle of white spot well worth a read it will also help you judge when it is irrigated(hope i spelt that right) aka gone dead

Dont Have a heater as tank is all coldwater fish so never bought one only noticed the white spot today so hopefully i got it on time will do a 50% water change now and add a the whitspot treatment its the only option i have i think i will be gutted if i lose fish !!!should i clean the filter in the water im changing or leave it alone and just do the water change?

Dont clean the filter at this stage. The meds may kill some of the beneficial bacteria in it and cleaning it wont help. Wait a week or so after all treatments are complete and clean it gently.

esha exit is a very good whitespot treatment and when used in conjunction with esha 2000 which it is safe to do so should also sort out your fin rot.

bad news i lost my pearlscale and fantail today ive been treating the tank for both fin rot and whitespot the white spot hasnt got any better which is the upside, anyway i wanted to thank you all for your advice hopefully it will save my oranda !!!

I am so sorry to hear that you did all you could! It is heart braking we have all had it happen to us at some stage.
Mickey