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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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24 Feb 2008 00:24 #1 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
I've used the API Master Test Kit for the last couple of years and would swear by it. I purchased two on eBay about 18 months ago. I opened the second of the two just before Christmas. My tap water pH has been unusually low recently. 7.2 as opposed to it's regular 7.8. Probably due to the heavy rainfall over the past couple of months.

I keep Africans so it's pretty important that it's at least 7.6. I picked up a bottle of buffer solution to bring the tap water up to 7.6. Last week, I added it to the water before a water change and then tested with the API kit. I didn't seem to be having any effect on the pH. I added about three times the recommened amount with seemingly no effect. I went ahead and did the water change.

A couple of weeks ago, I bought a pH meter on eBay for €20. Not a bad price - it arrived on Thursday. I calibrated it per the instructions and tested my tanks. The African tanks were 7.8 for my main tank and two quarantine tanks and 8.3 for my fry tank!! I tested with the API kit and was getting low 7's for all four tanks!!!

I was up North today and picked up a fresh API Master test kit. When I got home I tested the water on all four tanks and the new kit corresponded with the digital meter!

Looks like my previous API kit has passed it's expiry date, even though they don't have an expiry date.

I was most concerned with my fry tank. Looks as though I jumped the pH by at least 1.0 via a water change. Amazingly, I didn't loose any fish, nor did I notice them being out of sorts.

Lesson learned for me; best to purchase a new test kit every 6 months to ensure its accuracy. I've heard people saying that they become less accurate over time but it's odd that API don't state this.

Regards,

Ken.

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24 Feb 2008 01:46 #2 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
I always understood that they did expire, but you're right I have not noticed an expiry date on them.

I discovered a tank with a pH of 5.0 today that I expected to be about 6.5, I don't understand how it dropped there is no bogwood or peat etc. It pays to check your water regularly even if everything \"seems\" fine.

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24 Feb 2008 10:50 - 24 Feb 2008 10:53 #3 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:API Test Kit
You both highlight something very important here.

Water testing is SO SO important and yet the 'over the counter' technology we have available is, unfortunately - it appears, sadly lacking!

If these testing kits are - and this is beyond doubt very true - time-dated this should be plainly stated in prominent places on the packaging !!!

For something we 'set so much store by' (quite rightly) to become inaccurate after a period of time without reason it is completely unacceptable !!! You would actually suppose that it would be in the producers' interests to have 'sell by' and 'use by' dates on their testing products...we would then know that they have become inaccurate by the specified date and that we should buy new ones to maintain the accuracy we demand of these things.
Unless, of course, they are concerned that the kits reaching their 'sell by' dates will not sell and be of no commercial value? - That is a rather unkind suggestion of mine there but you do have to question why something so important to the fishkeeper is not openly stated to be liable to inaccuracy over time and will need to be replaced...
I have to quickly add that this is not merely a gripe at the API kits, I think all pH testing kits use the same reagents so this could well be directed to all...perhaps other producers do state 'time limits' - if they do, fair play to them! Time for everyone to follow suit !!!

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.
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24 Feb 2008 13:49 #4 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
Replied by KenS (Ken Simpson) on topic Re:API Test Kit
I'll send a mail to API and see if they can shed any light on the accuracy of the pH test. It only seems to be the high range pH test that was inaccurate. All the others seemed fine. However, I dumped the whole kit as I no longer trust it.

I'm pretty pleased that my pH meter is accurate. Not a bad purchase for €20.

Regards,

Ken.

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24 Feb 2008 15:17 #5 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Ken

Do you calibrate your pH meter often? I don't know how often it is needed, but I have found that mine goes off a little after a period of six months or more. I think it also depends on how hard you water is. It is worth checking every so often anyway.

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24 Feb 2008 17:57 #6 by Cardnim (Andrew Hanley)
I had this problem with API kits before (which I love and think are about the best kits around). They do have a date on them.

If you look on each bottle you will see a LOG number printed. The last four digits on this are the month and year that bottle was made.
eg. LOG: 3400406 would be made in April 2006.

The test kit will completely expire in 5 years (i.e. be useless) but I would replace them every year to be safe.

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24 Feb 2008 22:00 #7 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
Replied by KenS (Ken Simpson) on topic Re:API Test Kit
Hi Daragh,

The instructions with mine recommend that it be calibrated at least once a month. However, it can be used for all liquids. I reckon I shouldn't have to calibrate too often if only using it for water.

I'll aim for every 3 months. Maybe six months is pushing it.

Regards,

Ken.

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