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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 Feb 2008 22:53 #1 by gemma (gemma)
HELP!!!!!! was created by gemma (gemma)
I treated my tank last night for fin rot as my plec had a small hole in his fin.
Now I have just looked into my tank and all the fish are riddled with white spot!!! I don't know what to do as I can't treat it for white spot with the other medication that is in the tank??
I need help before Ihaev no fish left:( :(

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27 Feb 2008 23:49 #2 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
Do a major water change. take the temp up to 30 and if you can add some tonic salt.

Mickey Wallace & Cath Woods

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27 Feb 2008 23:52 #3 by lampeye (lampeye)
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add carbon or polyfilter to your filter this will remove the meds , then take it out and treat with protozin asap. 24 hours should be enough time to remove the other meds. however if you are very concerned and have a high flow filter like an external i would go for 8 hours with lots of carbon and then do a large-ish water change (30-40%) and then treat with the whitespot med.
the sooner the better

lampeye

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28 Feb 2008 02:28 #4 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Gemma, you need a testkit, 99% of fishkeeping is water quality!!!! Test for PH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, this is important... All the above advise is fine, but if your problem is to with water quality you could be doing more harm than good! If you can put up a list, if its a new tank, what you have done..ie.. do you add a water conditioner etc........

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28 Feb 2008 22:09 #5 by gemma (gemma)
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I'v had the tank set up for 8 months. I'v tested the ph and the nitrite and all is fine the I haven't tested is the ammonia :blush:
The white spot just appeared overnight my angel didn't get it or the 2 gourami's everything else did. My poor fighter!!
I'v done a massive water change and used tonic salts. I use stress coat as a water conditioner when changing it

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28 Feb 2008 22:20 #6 by gemma (gemma)
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and also there was no sign of the white spot when before I treated it for fin rot. It was the day after the white spot appeared

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28 Feb 2008 22:29 #7 by JohnH (John)
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Gemma,
Now you've done your water change you can go ahead with putting in white spot treatment.
It will really help if you can turn up your temperature to low 80s (don't know what that is in continental degrees) as white spot is only treatable once it actually drops from the fish to reproduce - by turning up the temperature you quicken up the metabolism of the 'cysts' on the fish speeding up the time lapse before the treatment can work.
It's just possible that the medication you used for the finrot stressed all your fish, they are more suscepible to white spot if stressed, causing them to become afflicted.
Unless you have had any newcomers in the past few days? - They could potentially be the carrier(s) of the disease.

Hope everything works out fine.
John

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28 Feb 2008 22:58 #8 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re:HELP!!!!!!
Hi Gemma,

80 deg F is 26 deg C.
I think the recommended temperature when you treat for whitespot is 30 deg C. Just make sure that you have increased aeration through either a air stone or disturbance of the water surface.

I hope all will get better in the next few days.

Valerie

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29 Feb 2008 01:29 #9 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
All the above is the right info follow it and it should clear, for the future maybe invest in a uv filter there are internals on the market and they are not too expensive €50-€60 approx. i have one in my smallest tank and never had a problem with illness so i got another for my hospital tank and imo it seems to actually aid healing and cures the likes of ich etc faster.
Seamus

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currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
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29 Feb 2008 20:37 #10 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Replied by Sean (Fr. Jack) on topic Re:HELP!!!!!!
Some meds are just for fin rot and some meds are just for proazoea.
but why not just use meds that effectively treat moth fin rot and proazeoa:woohoo: . Malachie green treats all of the above, but is more effective when mixed with formalin. The comercial brand Sera manufactures Cosapur and is conviente as is clever, it does not have any methelene blue which would knock out you filter (bio) so if you keep to the doses it will hit the fungus straight a way and if treated every second day for 8 days will kill the white spot at 24-25C as, motablism doubles for every 8C, at higher temp white spot reproduction speeds up but also the infection rate speeds up, so say you have 100 proazoa per 1CM squared on the skin, it will still mature and burst out at lower temp, so one could ague whats the point of a higher temp all you are doing is speeding up the time before the white spot is free swimming.

O.K lets look it another way you have a rusty old lawn mower that cannot be ajusted to a shorter cut, its 17C and it will take 2 weeks before its long enough to cut, you have raised them ground temp due to a golf green underground heater by 8C this double the growth rate to you can cut the grass after a week. Who cares you still have arrived at the same result:cheer: , when the white spot spors have left the fish its treatable, the only problem I have with raising the temp is is the gills are panting due to reduced O2 inter phase over the gills due to the infection the raise in temp will trastically reduce the o2 content of the water making a wipe out poassible if stocking is high as the combined effect of the infection and high temp may be too much for a very heavely effected fish in a well stocked tank with low O2 due to high temp.

AS far as treeting with just salt and higher temp, I have never seen a good out come, unless the salt is used as brime the bodies.

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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