Ozone use in freshwater aquariums

he saga of not doing water changes continues:laugh: ,I have 2 Malawi tanks which have a green tint to the water colour (not brown/yellow as carbon is used) it used to be gin clear;) I know in public marine aquariums to keep \"the Cristal clear sparkle\" Ozone is pumped in as even looking through 5 meters of clean tap water has a greens tinge with the Clorine and the natural colour of the water. Does any one have any experience of dosing O3 to give a cosmetic gin clear look to the water.

do a fxxking water change and add some fxxxking carbon!

Ozone??

The golden rule of fishkeeping \"KEEP IT SIMPLE\", why are you not doing water changes?

If I was drinking gin, I'd be doing a 'water' change every half hour or so. Once a week seems easy compared to that, and on the plus side there's no hangover.

Sean wrote:

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he saga of not doing water changes continues:laugh: ,I have 2 Malawi tanks which have a green tint to the water colour (not brown/yellow as carbon is used) it used to be gin clear;) I know in public marine aquariums to keep \"the Cristal clear sparkle\" Ozone is pumped in as even looking through 5 meters of clean tap water has a greens tinge with the Clorine and the natural colour of the water. Does any one have any experience of dosing O3 to give a cosmetic gin clear look to the water.

What on Earth are you talking about man! pure gobbledegook , just do partial water changes like everyone else and stop over complicating things. The cost of using o3 in a tank would be high, besides it only works in salt water, and decays in seconds so a constant supply is needed. In freshwater it would not decay so fast, it would kill fish by adversly effecting their gill functions (Basically it causes the gill membranes to dilate redusing their effectiveness at extracting o2 and eventually getting so bad that the fish simply cannot breath enough o2 because its gills are ruined.)
and it also is a disinfectant that would wipe out bacteria, including the bio filter. A \"cosmetic gin look\" sigh, my tanks are all crystal clear, all the time, all 7 at home and all 100 plus in the shop I work in. If you cant manage to keep a basic tank the way you want it, then do you really think you should be looking into advanced fishleeping methods such as the use of o3?

lampeye wrote:

Hay Jayus,
the second time in the same month I have seen shite with worms in it is your of the primate family or canine sources.

www.tmc-ltd.co.uk/pond/sander-ozonisers.asp

What are the benefits of Sander Certizon Ozonisers?

• Completely new ozone technology.

• Robust electrode, made from ceramic and titanium, can be opened from the outside.

• Suitable for freshwater and marine environments.

• Can be used in aquariums and ponds.

• Makes water clear and healthy.

• Kills pathogens.

• Oxidises toxic nitrite.

• Removes yellow substances.

• Increases the oxidation power of water.

• Reduces decay processes.

• Improves efficiency of the protein skimmer.

• Increases the redox potential.

• Supports biological filtration.

Or you could just do water changes instead...............

Sean wrote:

• Increases the redox potential.


Could anyone explain redox potential in relation to freshwater. I had a meter, but could never find an explanation to the readings for freshwater, all the articles seem aimed at saltwater.

Also is o3 harmful to humans? If so why?

Getting to learn plenty with the forum !

1st link :

Apparently, \"Ozone is one of the most powerful sterilizing agents in the world - five times more potent that molecular Chlorine in destroying germs, bacteria, and viruses. It doesn't have a strong, harmful and over-powering odour like Chlorine, yet it is so powerful, it actually kills those chlorine odours.

Once generated, ozone is quite unstable. One of the three oxygen atoms splits off the molecule and attaches itself to any particle or pollutant with which it comes in contact. That single oxygen atom proceeds to \"oxidise\" that particle. As a result, the particle will no longer be toxic, and will no longer be able to reproduce, if it is biological. The toxic particle therefore becomes completely harmless.

When the single oxygen (O1) molecule oxidizes the particle, it too is destroyed. This leaves behind pure oxygen (O2). Over a period of 20 - 30 minutes, ozone breaks down into two atoms of regular oxygen, by giving up one atom.
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Medical ozone therapy has been found to be an extremely safe modality, free from the dangerous side effects associated with drugs. In a 1980 study done by the German Medical Society for Ozone Therapy, 644 therapists were polled regarding their 384,775 patients, with a total of 5,579,238 ozone treatments administered. There were only 40 cases of side effects noted out of this number, which represents the incredibly low rate of 0.000007 %, and only four fatalities. Ozone has thus proven to be the safest medical therapy ever devised.
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But what makes Ozone therapy safe for human consumption?

It is important to find the balance between being effective in treatment and excessive exposure to Ozone, which is not deadly but brings discomfort to the human body. Many years of research have resulted in Ozone therapy that is scientifically proven; hence accurate application for the different methods of application has been recorded.\"

2nd link :

\"High concentrations of ozone can cause various health problems, such as reduced lung capacity, bronchitis and asthma, headaches, and irritation of the eyes and mucous membranes.

Short episodes involving high ozone concentrations often cause most discomfort and the most serious effects on people's health. People who already have reduced lung capacity may be affected at concentrations over 160 µg/m3. Healthy people do not feel any discomfort or effects on their health until concentrations reach 240 µg/m3. At such high concentrations, even healthy people may experience discomfort and health problems. We have never measured such high levels in Norway, but they do occur in central and southern Europe.

In Norway only people who are particularly sensitive are likely to notice symptoms caused by high ozone concentrations. People without lung problems are unlikely to notice any discomfort, but should not take part in strenuous physical activities when ozone levels are high.\"

I suppose it's like everything ... too much of a good thing is bad for you !!!

Valerie