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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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07 Jul 2008 20:55 #1 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Ive noticed over the past 4 or 5 days that my male white molly has behaved far different than usual. I have him about 6 months and he is usually busy chasing the female, snooping around the tank and just being a fish!! However over the past few days he has become extremely skittish, jumping at the smallest thing and he spends all his day on his own in different parts of the tank. He doesnt look sick, I thought it might be Ich but its hard to make out if there is any white spots as he is a white molly,his fins are upright quite alot also. I tested the water and all the readings are fine. When I was doing the weekly water change last night he was zooming away from me as fast as possible and Ive also noticed him flicking his tail abit also. Finally he was also going limp for a few minutes and with his head facing upward and body almost pointing up in the tank, his side fins moving alot. He doesnt look sick however and is moving around fine but is just totally staying on his own.
I did add two amano shrimp last week (without quaratine, I know I know dont give out to me!) but I dont know if its been linked. All my other fish including 2 other mollies are perfect. Whatever could be wrong with him, he extremely nervous now also whenever I go near the tank.

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07 Jul 2008 22:35 #2 by PAULHARTE25 (PAUL HARTE)
hi fishowner,i had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago with two of my platys,but when i was cleaning my tank i accidentally nudged my 7 inch catfish who darted across the tank and pummelled everything that got in his way,two of my platys hardly moved from the top corner of the tank for about a week,both of them are back to normal again but it took them a while to come around,dont know if you've got the same problem,sounds like you're fish are acting the exact same as mine were,i hope thats all thats wrong,if it is they'll be fine again in a few days,i'm not that experienced with fish so feel free to take no notice of anything i say,could be just coincidence

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Paul

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08 Jul 2008 15:00 - 08 Jul 2008 15:02 #3 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Could be the case Paul however I doubt it was down to this.Anyone else have an opinion on this ? I hope you are right Paul and that he begins to integrate again...I actually noticed a slight orange colour on the tip of his fin today also,I hadnt noticed it previously? He doesnt look sick however seems abit slim alright.
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08 Jul 2008 16:05 #4 by nonie (leonie troy)
Hi Fishowner, Is he rubbi off the gravel/glass? This can be a sign of ICH and is v hard to detect in fish! I think he might be suffering from stess. It might be an idea to put him in a quarentine tank for a day or two cos ifh is stressed in the tank it may lead to illness. This is what I did to one of my guppies and he was fine whe I put him back in!! Sorry I cant give any more info!!1

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08 Jul 2008 19:15 #5 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Thanks Nonie, I think this may the case alright, he remains at the top of the water alot in the tank. I havent got a quarantine tank yet set up Im afraid so that will take a while to cycle etc also. I think I have noticed 1 or 2 white spots on her tail.(Albeit he is a white molly!). Is Ich spread easily,Im afraid the rest of the fish could get sick also.
Gavin

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08 Jul 2008 19:24 #6 by nonie (leonie troy)
Hi Gavin, It can spread between the fish quite easily if not treated. Where are you based you might be able to get a lend of a tank. I am in Clonsilla and have a 20l tank for my sick ones. (if your near by) I also use safe start so the fish are good to go in 1 - 2 hrs after the tank is set up. When fish hang on the top of the water it is usually a sign something is up with em!! Although it can be quite hard to tell exactly what it is!! When it happens to mine I quarentine and treat ASAP with what I think is best!

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08 Jul 2008 20:03 #7 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I have a tank alright, its a 14 litre tank but would probably do for now Im guessing. It has a heater and a filter also....I may set it up over the next day or so...I have safe start also. Thanks Nonie....Im in Cork by the way but thank you v much for the offer of the 20 litre.

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08 Jul 2008 20:57 #8 by Valerie (Valerie)
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Hi,

If it is whitespot, I would treat as soon as possible. You can search for ich/whitespot on this forum as it has been widely discussed previously or search on the internet for further detail.

Whitespot is a tiny organism which attaches itself onto the fish for a while and then falls at the bottom of the tank to reproduce in large numbers which re-attach to the fish when given an opportunity. The length of its lifecycle depends on your tank's temperature, the hotter the water is, the shorter the life cycle is.

I would advise you to do a water-change (and hoover the substrate), increase your water temperature to 30 degrees (if all your fish can take it) and get some medication asap for white spot (esHa is pretty good). Increase the level of oxygen into your tank by either adding an airstone or get the filter output to disrupt the water surface (don't forget to remove your carbon sponge if you have one and disinfect your equipment to avoid further/cross contamination if you have other tanks).

As long as the gills of the fish aren't touched, you should be able to save your fish(es).

I hope this helps. :-)
Valerie

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09 Jul 2008 08:29 #9 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Thanks Valerie,
Im not sure about 30 degrees. I have mollys (3 adults & 6 fry),bronze corys,guppys (1 adult, 1 fry),neon and cardinal tetras and also amano shrimp.
Also how long should I increase the temperature for ?

Firstly will the shrimp be alright when I add this medication as I know they are not advised to have any metals etc..(presume there isnt any traces of same in the whitespot treatment). I have a sponge filter so I will leave that as it is. In terms of disinfecting the equipment what would you advise I do for this ?

Gavin

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09 Jul 2008 11:08 #10 by Valerie (Valerie)
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Hi Fishowner,

Though I would like someone else to confirm but the mollys, guppys, neons and cardinals should be ok at 30 degres for a little while.
On the other hand, I am not sure about the corys and the amano shrimps (I never kept the latter). Can someone help there ?

The temperature should be raised for the length of the treatment.

For disinfection, I use boiling water. I'm not sure whether this kills everything, but so far, and touch wood, it hasn't caused me any issue.

I hope this helps.
Valerie

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09 Jul 2008 17:12 #11 by Valerie (Valerie)
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Daragh Owens tells me that 30 deg for your amano shrimps should not be a a problem ! :-)

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Valerie

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