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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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14 Aug 2008 09:49 #1 by umm (karen baker)
help. ok can fish choke. ive just lost a torpedo barb. my first dead fish and im so ****ed off because i think its my fault sort of. they all seemed fine this morn. but i did not count every fish so it is possible he was dying before i fed them. anyway apart from BEING DEAD. he looks perfectly healthy. i have just tested the water AMMONIA 0, NITRITE 0, NITRATE between 5 - 10, PH either 7.0 or 7.2 cant quite tell. All other fish seem fine . i gave them blood worms. is it possible he stuffed his gob and choked. they are very greedy and eat their food very fast. i thought fish keeping was a relaxing hobby, im so stressed out right now. help :( :( :(

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14 Aug 2008 10:02 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:fish choking
This isn't very possible that your Barb choked from taking in too much bloodworm, generally as fast as fish can get food into their mouths - especially greedy fish like Barbs - it will pass into the digestive system. Did you see that particular Barb eat food this morning? - Might it have already have died unnoticed? Your water readings seem fine - especially if the pH was closer to 7 than 7.2...I think you should try to keep a close eye on your tank occupants if convenient for the next few days and report back if any others start acting unnaturally. This might just have been 'one of those things' but it would be best to keep on the safe side.

One last thing - is that Barb a fairly new addition, or do you have any other fairly new additions to your fish?

John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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14 Aug 2008 10:11 - 14 Aug 2008 10:14 #3 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
ok. thank for replying. i actually watched him die he was lying on his side moving every few secs. this seemed to happen right after i fed them but as i said earlier he could of already been like that before i fed and i just dident notice him. he has no marks what so ever that look suspicious. im at a loss. he has been in tank for a few weeks and have not added any other fish. they are in with red nose tetras.
Last edit: 14 Aug 2008 10:14 by umm (karen baker).

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14 Aug 2008 10:16 #4 by Peter OB (Peter O'Brien)
Don't worry about it, like people, fish can sometimes just die. Keep an eye on the water parameters.

Torpedo Barbs can be pricey, so i'd keep an eye on the tank and maybe do a water change.

Watching a fish die can be stressful, I get exactly where you are coming from.

Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.

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14 Aug 2008 10:33 #5 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
i just hate not knowing why this happened. i have 11 left now. it would be very costly alright if i lost them. for some mad reason i thought id never lose a fish. lol. obviously i have some \"SPECIAL\" fish. flip what a crap start to the day :(

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14 Aug 2008 12:56 #6 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Head up Umm, these things happen, I remember losing my first guppy and I was at a loss to wonder why she died,she had dropsy. Why she got it I will never know. But you get on with it,you have other fish and as the others have pointed out make sure you keep an eye on them over coming few days and the water parameters,perhaps a quick water change will put your mind at ease also. Fish die like humans,sometimes it just happens, its nature,just like they reproduce and not all of them make it.
Head up,fishkeeping is still a very relaxing hobby,you just have to learn that you cant get stressed by the fish who get sick if you have done everything you can. Better to have 11 fish healthy than to have all of them sick. It takes a while to get around to this way of thinking but just ask some of the more experience keepers here who will tell you that they would have no problems saving the rest of the tank if one was sick and threatening the rest. Survival of the fittest and all that. Still in all,sorry to hear you lost your first fish. At least you have loads more to enjoy.

Gavin

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14 Aug 2008 17:03 #7 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
thanks to all for the advice, feel better about it now. the first time i kept fish was about 18 years ago and hadnt a clue, never heard of ammonia, nitrites etc:ohmy: the poorfish, but getting back to the hobby this time around ive done loads and loads of research . cycled the tank, added small no. of fish at a time, have been testing water on an almost daily basis , done the water changes etc. so at least this time around i know it wasnt anything to do with my iggnorance about the hobby unlike last time. its amazing how the hobby sucks you in. have to admit when i thought he was choking(please no laughing)i wondered if there was some kind of fish heimlich manouver. think i need help:lol: better puree the hubbys dinner tonight:laugh:

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14 Aug 2008 23:06 #8 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
When a Denison or torpedo Barb is unhappy or ill the red will fade. You may notice if you are doing maintenance in the tank they can quickly fade the red colouring. Just something to watch out for.
They also like lot's and lot's of oxygen.

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15 Aug 2008 09:08 #9 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
thanks for your help . his colour was great though, thats why its such a mystery to me. fine one min gone the next. is there a way for me to test the oxygen levels. it looks fine though and all the others seem very happy. fantastic colours and very active. lots of surface aeration. every time i walk into the room they all swim up to the glass looking for food. i feed them 3 small meals a day, varying between bloodworm brineshrimp spirulina and tetra pro flakes. the food is eaten within seconds. do these guys ever get full? no casulities this morning though. met someone yesterday who said once one fish dies they all die, not something i wanted to hear and i also think thats rubbish anyway unless there is an obvious problem which i dont see. well ill just keep a close eye on them and hope it was just one of those things!

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15 Aug 2008 15:22 #10 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
When one fish dies it means one fish dies! Its rubbish to say the rest will die also. Perhaps if a disease is evident then it may effect others but if they all seem normal and all is ok in the tank then I wouldnt worry about it. Remeber fish get alot of stress when being moved etc..not all of them make it,and often fish die of old age also,remember its hard to tell how old the fish are,for all you know the LFS may of received the fish from an existing owner before it was sold again. Its just not worth wondering why it passed away,its nature. Forget it and get minding those remaining fish,which from the sounds of it you are doing perfectly.
Gavin

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15 Aug 2008 18:33 #11 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
thanks fishowner. im really glad i joined this forum. ive had nothing but great advice and encouragement since i did. so cheers to all.:cheer:

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16 Aug 2008 09:23 #12 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Umm remember when you said when you said 1 fish dies the rest will.....I think that shoud be when 1 of your fish dies,1 of my fish dies! I came home last night to find 1 of my mollies belly up on the surface :( I dont know what happened her as she was appearing normal enough previously. Yes she had gone slightly withdrawn but thats been the case for ages,she was eating,showing no sign of illness etc... Unfortunately its the 2nd fish Ive lost in the past 10 days,the other fish had an internal parasite that killed it,I tried saving her but couldnt. So from going to losing just 1 fish in 8 months,Ive gone to 3 in 9 months. Never easy but again plenty more in the tank to take care of anyhow,will need to watch the parameters now and the other fish in the tank. I must do a water change also.
So Umm next time you fish is sick,let me know, I dont wanna lose anymore fish either! lol!
Gavin

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16 Aug 2008 09:47 #13 by umm (karen baker)
Replied by umm (karen baker) on topic Re:fish choking
oh, im sorry to hear that. about the internal parasite, what were the external symptons. and by the way all my fish look fine this morn you will be relieved to hear!;)

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16 Aug 2008 09:54 #14 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Internal paraiste on my black molly was that she had finrot about 2 months ago,I treated this but it appears there was secondary infection,her poo became transparent and she started suffering weight loss also. I got lots of advise what to do and treated her in a quarantine tank,unfortunately I couldnt save her. Dont worry about Internal parasites, regular water changes are the key to avoiding almost all fish diseases.

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