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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 Dec 2006 15:03 #1 by pjq (pjq)
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Hi again,
The history , I'm new to this , tank running for 3 weeks , have had some deaths , but water quality seems fine ( had it double cjhecked in LFS). I lost a Sunset Platy during the week , thought that I saw small bubbles on the skin , but saw nothing when I fished it out of the tank .
Now my 4 Black Phantom Tetra seem to have white dandruff , I didn't see this this morning when feeding . What is it ?

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16 Dec 2006 15:44 #2 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
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It's a parasite known as whitespot or ich (pronounced "ick"). See the link below. You will need to get some treatment from your LFS and treat a.s.a.p. Turning up the temperature in your tank speeds up the parasite's life cycle and also helps, but you need to treat with meds as well.

www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdwspot.htm

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16 Dec 2006 19:41 #3 by lampeye (lampeye)
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GET SOME PROTOZIN ASAP.
this may have been caused by not cycling your filter. if so i made the same mistake with my first tank. if you are unfamiliar with the term cycling let us know and we'll explain it. first things first.
how long after after you got your tank did u add fish and how many?
do you have water test kits?
are u dechlorinating your water with stress coat or similar product?

fran

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17 Dec 2006 02:39 #4 by pjq (pjq)
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Thanks for the speedy reply , I will go to LFS asap. I have test kit and water is good . I have 12 fish in 170l after 4 weeks . I have switched from spring water ( higher nitrates) to mains + stress coat . Could the parasite come from the untreated spring water ? Otherwise it must be LFS?

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17 Dec 2006 03:22 #5 by lampeye (lampeye)
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it could come from lfs... but typically fish get it from bad water conditions or stress. it could be any number of things like wrong ph, temp, levels of amonia or nitrite (no nitrate) present, not acclimatising your fish slowly when u get them. or it may have been in the tank at your lfs so its important when buying a fish to really look closely to make sure all specimens in the tank are healthy, not just the ones you are consideringh buying.

MOST likely it is caused by new tank symdrome. ie. adding too many fish too fast. if this is your 170 litre tank you have only got a filter in there since 10 days so generally this is not enough time for the "good" bacteria to multiply and infest your filter. without these bacteria present to break down the amonia caused by fish breathing and shitting , and the food u add, there can be ammonia and nitrite spikes.

please test your water again a and post results like this:


temp:
ph:
ammonia: x ppm
nitrite: x ppm
nitrate: x ppm

also it sounds like u added too many fish at once so a list and size of your fish would help also.

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17 Dec 2006 07:47 #6 by pjq (pjq)
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Panda ,

Thanks for the tips per telephone , I have removed the ornamental sea shells incase they cause the PH of 8 ( water going in has Ph7).
Last night value before 40% water change were ;
temp: 24
ph: 8
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0.5mg/l
nitrate: 40mg/l

Protozin now in tank and temperature raised to 26 , carbon filter is out . Im away until Tue am , tank will be dosed tomorrow and I will update then.

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17 Dec 2006 07:54 #7 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
hi pjq
all fish carry parasties, but generally they have a strong immune system to fend them off, but when they become stressed it becomes weak and they are much more suseptable to diseases. this can be physical (getting fins nipped/attacked etc) or environmental (water quality). what other fish are in your tank? what are you testing for? how old is your testkit?

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17 Dec 2006 08:59 #8 by Anthony (Anthony)
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Panda ,

Thanks for the tips per telephone , I have removed the ornamental sea shells incase they cause the PH of 8 ( water going in has Ph7).
Last night value before 40% water change were ;
temp: 24
ph: 8
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0.5mg/l
nitrate: 40mg/l

Protozin now in tank and temperature raised to 26 , carbon filter is out . Im away until Tue am , tank will be dosed tomorrow and I will update then.

What was the temperature before. Raise it above 28c this will kill the whitespot. Lave it at this for a week and add an airstone to the tank. I never use a treatment for whitespot but have not seen it in years. Only had it once. If you fish are not able to take the high temperature then Protozin is about the best.

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20 Dec 2006 16:08 #9 by pjq (pjq)
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Almost all seems to be well , Most of the fish look happy , appitites are improved , white spot more or less gone from tetras .
BUT one of the phantom tetras died today .
Water seems ok , but I did a partial water change after test and before I added a 4th days medecine .
temp: 27,5
ph: 7,5
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0.3mg/l
nitrate: 40mg/l

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20 Dec 2006 17:03 #10 by lampeye (lampeye)
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thats great news...dont forget to finish the course of meds....i think the last dose is on day 6 but make that 7 if you stopped aafter 4 days instead of 3

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25 Dec 2006 14:01 #11 by pjq (pjq)
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All seems well again , Sunday was day 7 and last dose of medecine . When do I put the carbon filter back ?
Water values are unchanged .
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25 Dec 2006 18:40 #12 by lampeye (lampeye)
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if there is absolutely no sign of whitespot on any of the fish id do a 25 % water change with dechlorinated water and add carbon...just to be safe with the temp only lower it a click on the heater per day.
glad to hear it seems like a happy ending.....but keep your eyes open and if it re-appears again after your water change take the carbon out again and repeat the course of meds...
and happy christmas!

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