white spot?

Can someone explain exactly what a UV sterilizer is & how it works?
Are there many advantages to having one ?
Tony.

Hi Tony,
a uv sterilizer is basically a uv light encased in glass around which water can flow, it allows a couple of things to happen eg: reduce algae by binding it so filters can process it but also it can kill bad bacteria and the likes or viral and parasitic organisms in the tank s when they are passed by the uv light it basically irradiates them causeing them to die. it will not prevent disease coming into your tank but if it does it should greatly lessen the effects of it
Seamus

Thanks to everyone for your help.Much appriciated.
Tony.

UVs are great but IMO i wouldnt "run" them the whole time cause they make the enviroment sterile....which means fish tend to become weak..but for QT systems they are very good!!

Hi LB.
I ordered WS3 over the internet but rather than wait for it to arrive I went back to the Pet shop where I got the fish & they gave me a product called Blagdon used to be Interpet White Spot Treatment. It is a two stage process. Dose once & repeat after four days.
I gave the 2nd dose yesterday.
The white spot has gone from the 2 affected female fighters but I noticed that the most severely affected one has some fin damage. I understand that this is one of the affects of White Spot. All the fish seem fine & none of the others have shown any sign of White Spot.
I may give the tank a 3rd dose in four days time, just to be sure. I also turned up the temp to 28" on the heater even though the thermometer says 27".
The King British WS3 turned up yesterday so I have something ready if the first product doesn't work.
Tony.

I use API Anti white spot cure and its always worked for me thankfully.
Just dont spill it on anything,its a really dark blue that can stain!
Gavin

The stuff I got is dark blue as well. Very strong staining. Looks like the ingredients might be the same.

Yeah, similar product Id imagine,just make sure there is no copper in it if you have any shrimps etc.. Also Corys can be intolerant of these medicenes, I usually treat at half dose with my corys in the tank. While I know many others say you shouldnt treat anything at half dose, its the only option sometimes and it has worked for me also, then again Ive always caught it early.
Gavin

ALL parasitic diseases...whitespot, costia, trich. etc..cause tissue damage so you need to treat with and antibacterial treatment after ALL parasitic treatments..wounds are left open so if you dont other infections can "get in"

serratus wrote:

ALL parasitic diseases...whitespot, costia, trich. etc..cause tissue damage so you need to treat with and antibacterial treatment after ALL parasitic treatments..wounds are left open so if you dont other infections can "get in"

What does everyone normally use as an antibacterial treatment ?

hey amdaley


i use API's Melafix its for damaged fins, ulcers, and open wounds to name a few i find it great

smells nice too

Thanks for that. I don't want to go sniffing anything now.

amdaley wrote:

Hi LB.
I ordered WS3 over the internet but rather than wait for it to arrive I went back to the Pet shop where I got the fish & they gave me a product called Blagdon used to be Interpet White Spot Treatment. It is a two stage process. Dose once & repeat after four days.
I gave the 2nd dose yesterday.
The white spot has gone from the 2 affected female fighters but I noticed that the most severely affected one has some fin damage. I understand that this is one of the affects of White Spot. All the fish seem fine & none of the others have shown any sign of White Spot.
I may give the tank a 3rd dose in four days time, just to be sure. I also turned up the temp to 28" on the heater even though the thermometer says 27".
The King British WS3 turned up yesterday so I have something ready if the first product doesn't work.
Tony.

Before I gave the second dose I tested the water & found Ammonia up at 1.5. I did a 20% water change before giving the 2nd dose.Now 4 days later I find the Ammonia is still up at about 1.5. I have just done a 20% water change.
What else can I do & how long before the water change will bring down the Ammonia level ?
The fish seem fine & show no signs of any distress.Is it the white spot treatment which is putting up the Ammonia levels. The other test results are Ph 7, Nitrate & Nitrite are 0.

Hi Everyone.
Did water test this morning.
Ammonia is still at about 2.
The only other change from yesterday is that Nitrate is now at 5.
The female fighter which was worse affected by white spot doesn't look to good, not eating & swimming slowly.I have moved her to a quarantine tank & she seems fine by herself.
Put Ammo Lock in the main tank & will see how it goes. I don't know what else to do.

I put Melafix in the quarantine tank yesterday & moved the female fighter to it.Today she is still going strong & has been seen swimming around at times.It's nice & quiet where the quarantine tank is so she will not be bothered by anyone.
The other female fighter is in the main tank and seems fine along with all the other fish.

Did a test on main tank this morning and Ammonia is still at about 2 but the treatment with the Ammo Lock continues.All the other test levels are normal.
Ph 6.8.
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0

Tony are you sure your readings for Ammonia are correct?

Hi LB.
I'm pretty sure that is what the level is. Now we may have made a mistake in the first dose of Ammo lock in that we under estimated the quantity of water in the tank. We thought we has about 50gallons (227lts) when in fact our tank holds 300lts.The 2nd dose which I put in this morning is correct for 300lts.
When I got your reply I did another Ammonia test & the reading is 2.

Now I know we have made mistakes.We washed out the filters in Tank water because we thought that some of the white spot might be in them, so we have lost some of our good bacteria. I have added Stress Zyme to the tank in an attempt to increase the bacteria.We also believe that we may have over fed the fish.We were feeding them every day but we have been told to feed only every two days
The fish look happy & show no sign of distress & the water is very clear.How long before the Ammo Lock would make a difference ?

If ye washed out the filters in Tank water they should be fine it’s when you wash them under a tap that you do damage.
What are the dimensions of your tank? 300L is a big tank
If you have moved your female fighter to a quarantine tank and she has white spot you will need to treat the quarantine tank,

LB

Hi LB.
The tank is an Aqua One.
Length 120cms/47inchs.
Height 65cms/26inchs.
Depth from front to back is 45cms/18inchs. It has a bow front.We got the water quantity from the Aqua One site. here is the link. Our tank is the bottom one on this page.
Model no 1200B.
www.aquaone.co.uk/aquience_bow.php

We moved the female fighter which was worst affected by white spot into the quarintine tank. She shows no sign of white spot but we are treating her with Melafix as her fins show signs of damage & she is not very lively.I saw her swimming around during the day but slowly. She spends most of her time resting around the side of the filter.This tank has an internal filter.The other female fighter seems to have fully recovered and is in the main tank with the others.This tank has been treated for White spot so all the other fish have been treated as well.We didn't move the worst affected female fighter to the quarintine tank until she showed no sign of white spot & the white spot treatment had been completed.The reason we moved her to be by herself was because she was showing signs of damage to her fins & was moving very slowly.
It seems strange that the tests on the main tank were perfect until we treated it for the White spot.

If anyone else would like to come in on this discussion please do. The more help & information we get the better. We are only starting off.

amdaley wrote:

Hi LB.
The tank is an Aqua One.
Length 120cms/47inchs.
Height 65cms/26inchs.
Depth from front to back is 45cms/18inchs. It has a bow front.We got the water quantity from the Aqua One site. here is the link. Our tank is the bottom one on this page.
Model no 1200B.
www.aquaone.co.uk/aquience_bow.php

We moved the female fighter which was worst affected by white spot into the quarintine tank. She shows no sign of white spot but we are treating her with Melafix as her fins show signs of damage & she is not very lively.I saw her swimming around during the day but slowly. She spends most of her time resting around the side of the filter.This tank has an internal filter.The other female fighter seems to have fully recovered and is in the main tank with the others.This tank has been treated for White spot so all the other fish have been treated as well.We didn't move the worst affected female fighter to the quarintine tank until she showed no sign of white spot & the white spot treatment had been completed.The reason we moved her to be by herself was because she was showing signs of damage to her fins & was moving very slowly.
It seems strange that the tests on the main tank were perfect until we treated it for the White spot.

If anyone else would like to come in on this discussion please do. The more help & information we get the better. We are only starting off.

This morning we lost the female fighter who had been in the quarintine tank.She had been in there since Sunday,the tank had been dosed with Melafix but to no avail.

In the main tank we have done a 25% water change & redosed with Ammo Lock in an attempt to get the Ammonia down.The fish are showing no sign of any distress & look perfectly happy.Hopefully the water change & ammo lock wil make a difference.