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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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12 Oct 2009 10:33 #1
by Jaffacakehead (John McPartland)
I never used to bother testing my water. As long as the fish are happy and healthy and everything is stable and well maintained then I was happy.
I made a huge mistake the other day and tested my water. Now I'm completely stressed out about my Kh and Gh and how I can reduce them.
Gh AT LEAST 180ppm
Kh AT LEAST240ppm
Ph 7.5
these readings are as high as my test kit goes so its probably even worse.
I tested my cold and hot water supply and the chilled water dispensor on my fridge and they're all the same.
I've tried adding Oak leaves and Peat to my filter and I have bogwood in the tank but to no avail.
All my fish are healthy and happy(touch wood).
I do not have the resources to get an RO unit at the moment.
Should I just go back to my ignorance is bliss philosophy and forget I ever tested my water or is there anything I can do to soften my water.
Oh by the way I have Angelfish, Black Widow tetras, Cardinal tetras, Corys, bettas and pygmy sparkling gouramis at the moment.
All soft water fish really.
Any ideas???
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12 Oct 2009 12:46 #2
by scubadim (scubadim)
Hi,
looks like you have a pretty hard water.your pH is 7.5.and your fish are healthy.
when the water is that hard,peat or oak leaves won't affect the pH or else very little.
if you do your water changes regularly,your water quality will be stable,pH a bit high but stable.
Most fish(even soft water dwelling fish) will acclimatise to their environment as long as it is stable and not extreme.
That's the good thing about hard water,it is more stable than soft water where the pH tends to drop dramatically.
The way i look at it is :one, you could keep the fish you have and make sure that all the other parameters are right;two,go into fish like african cichlids that are at best in hard water and high pH.
hope this helps.
Dimitri.
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12 Oct 2009 13:14 #3
by derek (Derek Doyle)
agree with scubdim, stability is the most important factor.
gh is just about ok, i usually grow on baby angels and other amazon species in gh 120 to 140 with no ill effects.
ph is also fine between 7 and 7.5. kh is a bit high but as this is temporary hardness, u could reduce this by boiling the new water before adding.
my advice would be to leave well enough alone as the fish seem happy enough. just add bogwood and almond leaves and this will very slowly reduce the values without stressing the fish.
30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish
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12 Oct 2009 15:23 #4
by Jaffacakehead (John McPartland)
Thanks guys. Maybe I should leave well enough alone. I thought about African ciclids alright but I've never really been into them. I've always been more into Amazon/Sth American type fish. I had really soft water where I used to live and just stayed with the same type of fish when I moved.
I could save up for an RO unit I suppose and then even Discus might be a possibility!
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