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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 Mar 2010 20:56 #1 by skimask (stephen)
hi lads just noticed few spots on 4 of my fish:( the fish seem fine but i want to start treating them asap. has anyone tried the salt and raising temp method does it work?? if i put up the dimension's of my tank could someone work out the amount of water it holds.. any help will be great thanks lads..

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01 Mar 2010 21:05 #2 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
hi there,
i have whitespot myself my clown loaches where pickled with it and was advised to use ws3 and so far so good lost no fish and its nearly gone hope that this helps Martin

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01 Mar 2010 21:48 #3 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:treating whitespot
skimask wrote:

hi lads just noticed few spots on 4 of my fish:( the fish seem fine but i want to start treating them asap. has anyone tried the salt and raising temp method does it work?? if i put up the dimension's of my tank could someone work out the amount of water it holds.. any help will be great thanks lads..


Personally I'm not a fan of the Salt treatment for white spot. Although I do agree that an increase in temperature will increase the metabolism of the parasites to the stage where they will leave the host fish to re-infect other fish. It is at this time that they are vulnerable.
If you read the articles on the pages below you should find some answers:

www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o...unc,showcat/catid,8/

More questions? - Ask away.
My preferred whitespot treatment is Waterlife Protozin btw.

John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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01 Mar 2010 22:02 - 01 Mar 2010 22:04 #4 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re:treating whitespot
Dayo in Petstop had the most persistant, virulent form I've ever witnessed, horrible whitespot covering every sq milimeter of available Fish and after a long period he sorted it, you might contact him to see what he did, no salt, to my knowledge was used. Fish affected were Firemouths, jewel cichlids and blue acara. Don't quote me but I dont think he lost any of the Fish.

Kev.
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01 Mar 2010 22:17 #5 by derek (Derek Doyle)
skimask wrote:

hi lads just noticed few spots on 4 of my fish:( the fish seem fine but i want to start treating them asap. has anyone tried the salt and raising temp method does it work?? if i put up the dimension's of my tank could someone work out the amount of water it holds.. any help will be great thanks lads..


multiply lenght by breadth by height in inches and divide by 276 for gallons and L by B by H in cms and divide by 1000 for litres.
i agree with john and think protozin is best treatment. remove carbon and reduce feeding while treating.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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01 Mar 2010 22:51 #6 by Dioza (Adam Bell)
www.firsttankguide.net/calculator.php handy for aquarium volume.

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01 Mar 2010 23:31 #7 by skimask (stephen)
thanks every for the help.. ill head down to the lads in fintastic 2morrow and get the treatment.. one more thing my thank is run of a sump should i do anything wit the bio balls or sponges..

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01 Mar 2010 23:40 #8 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:treating whitespot
They should be OK, it really is only the carbon you need to remove from your filtration.
If you use Protozin it will not upset your bacteria, although it is advisable to do the recommended water change at the end of the treatment cycle.

One other thing, you must consider the volume of water in your sump when calculating how much medication to use. (Rather obvious really, but I have overlooked this myself before now!).

John

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02 Mar 2010 16:43 #9 by DJK (David Kinsella)
There was a thread a few weeks ago opened by Kev re- persistant whitespot. I got an outbreak in December and then again in early February which both times I thought was cured after treatment. Just looking at the fish again today after a few days in The Garden County to find there are again signs of the parasite!! I used Protazin both times but am now thinking of changing to something else as the parasite may have built up some resistance to this product.

Does anybody have any opinions

Dave

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02 Mar 2010 21:58 #10 by derek (Derek Doyle)
there is a new persistent strain of w. spot around as well and it is very hard to shift. it seems to come with imported fish from a certain area.

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02 Mar 2010 22:15 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re:treating whitespot
Get in touch with Dayo in Petshop Blanch, as I said in another post, he had a really nasty strain, he persisted and after a long while he sorted it.

Kev.

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02 Mar 2010 22:27 #12 by DJK (David Kinsella)
Thanks Kev

I'll give him a shout tomorrow.

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03 Mar 2010 01:03 #13 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Protozin...as instructed on box.

I increase temperature....that speeds up the life-cycle.

Thinking life cycle again.....clean corners and inside edges of tank (a cotton wool make-up pad will do).

Make sure that corners do not become stagnated....aerate well or get good water movement into all corners and crevices. That will disrupt the stationary phase.

Then allow 6 weeks (a rule of thumb) before sayin 'all sorted'.

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03 Mar 2010 13:26 #14 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:treating whitespot
Same process worked for me, pretty nastly strain free from petstore, serves me right for puttin them straight in, was my first fishy buy, killed 1 loach, well stressed him and something else got him.

Used higher temp and good water flow, only put to 30 degrees for 2 days and 28 deg for 15 after that. Never come back since, 6 months and counting. Fishies could not take 30 for long but 2 days and 28 for 17 after that was enough for the problem I had. That and lots of gravel cleaning water changing, can also get a 1 micron sponge for your filter, free floaters are 3-4 microns or more I think?

Stagnation at any time in your tank, manky :)


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03 Mar 2010 18:11 #15 by skimask (stephen)
hi lads firstly i would like to say thanks for all the replys.. its been 3 or 4 days since i first noticed the whitespot i only managed to start the treatment today wit protozin half the recommened dose because i have few diff species of knife's i my tank..(is this correct)??? anyway iv had the temp up to 30 this been the second day and done 25% water change seem's to be all going well some of the fish tat could of had 3 or 4 spots on them might only have 1 now.. the most affected seem to be the armered cats why is this??? igmillichip as u wher sayin about cleaning right into the corners and tat i would do this every few days anyway iam a bit of a clean freek notin worse than a dirty tank.. thanks for all the advise again and if anyone can see iam doing anything wrong please say so. cheers:)

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03 Mar 2010 22:45 #16 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
The bit about stagnant areas isn't really about 'dirty tanks'.

There is a stage in the life cycle of the Oodinium that requires that stage to be off-the-fish and stationary.
Hence, water movement disrupts that stage.

Good Goodness, I wouldn't suggest anyone tanks are manky B)

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