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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 Aug 2010 01:03 #1 by ulsterboy (barry hughes)
Today, 01:00 AM

hi guys..the past 2weeks 1of my angelfish is flicking of the plants and hiding out alot..comes to the front of the tank for food ok,but heads straight behind the bogwood right after..no visable sign of ich,which i had in the past with other fish..do you think it might be an internal parasite?i also have another angelfish and there sign of bullying between them..did a water test..(NO2)0.3mg/l...ph(7.5)
30gallon planted..
stock list.
2angels
2mollies
2guppies
1cory

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16 Aug 2010 01:17 #2 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
could be an internal parasite, but may be symptoms of something else like damage from severe changes in water parameters causing ph burn etc. caused by differences in waters from where you bought it to your own setups water.. treat for internal parasites if you like, could be flukes etc., how long since your last ich outbreak as these can live in substrate waiting for a weak host to present itself and then boom new outbreak.

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16 Aug 2010 10:58 #3 by ulsterboy (barry hughes)
my last out break was about 5mths ago..i tryed last week slowy rising the temperature for afew days,hoping it might speed up the cycle and bring out the visible ich..but nothing:angry:

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16 Aug 2010 11:18 #4 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
If its flicking and there hasnt been any major change in ph then there is a good chance it has gill flukes. You could try Hikari PraziPro as its one of the best and wont affect your filter.

Jay

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16 Aug 2010 13:51 #5 by wastegate (Joseph Farrell)
Do you want a lend of my quarantine tank? Might be up near you this week. Have spare heater, filter and mature filter media. Would save you treating whole tank if its only 1 fish thats affected.

You know you're addicted to fishkeeping when...you spend €200 to accomodate a €5 fish.

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16 Aug 2010 16:09 #6 by convict84 (sean farrell)
sometimes the ich is behind the gills and not seen at the start,i would put the temp up to 30 and add salt...

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16 Aug 2010 17:54 - 16 Aug 2010 17:56 #7 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:angel whats up??
Mate it could be many things and you could guess all day

Best to get a closer look at the fish to see if you can identify any cysts or parasites. What are your Ammonia andI know you got plants but also your nitrate readings?

If you can have a closer look under a bright light if you can't get a good view in the tank and check for anything abnormal, I say this only because you shouldn't treat until you have identified the problem, where identification is possible of course.

Flukes will be visible at closer inspection and the gills may be damaged.

Flashing usually occurs before you begin to see any mass on the fish body with Ich, when the white spots appear on the body the infection is advanced at that point. Slowly raise your temp to 28 degrees, this will speed up the dropping off of the parasite and does give the fish some relief after a few days, with this more fall off than attach, unless infested, the heat will reduce the amount of attached parasites at this early stage. You should see an improvement in the Angels behavious. Keep the water in excellent condition to reduce stress further, hopefully if caught early the heat speeds up the life cycle of the parasite enough to remove it. Keep an eye on the others for flashing too as in the beginning it usually is seldomand increases as it gets worse.


Mark

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16 Aug 2010 20:22 #8 by ulsterboy (barry hughes)
did a 40%water change today,improvement(no2)<0.3mg/l...(ph)7.0..going to buy some test kits tomorrow check ammonia,nitrate..one of the guppies started flicking also,so i turned the temp up slowy today..i sat at the tank and studied each fish,and stil no visible sign of anything..maybe it is ich in the process,as i said i had a breakout about 5mths back,and it might never of cleared up fully...we,l see:angry:

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16 Aug 2010 22:27 #9 by derek (Derek Doyle)
fish flick all the time without parasites being present and there is no cause for concern unless it is persistent. it can be a reaction to a water change or a drop in water quality. the angel hiding away sounds like it is being harrassed by his tankmate. internal parasites are rare and usually in wild caught fish.
dont treat for parasites unless you are fairly sure that they are the problem.

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17 Aug 2010 10:26 - 17 Aug 2010 10:29 #10 by ulsterboy (barry hughes)
nah its ok wastegate with the spare tank..will have to treat the whole tank i would say..but cheers mate..will be down in carrick this weekend for afew beers.so get em in the cooler..B)p.s whats the weather like down yourways for the weekend do you know?
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17 Aug 2010 11:58 #11 by wastegate (Joseph Farrell)
No bothers bud, hope all goes well with the tank. Beers are cooling but as for weather for the weekend, i wouldn't hold my breath. Think saturday will be ok. My lfs is getting their stock in tomorrow so we can just spend the weekend looking at the new fish :laugh: He should have some cool stuff so you might want to hit the bank for an over draught before you make the trip down :laugh:

You know you're addicted to fishkeeping when...you spend €200 to accomodate a €5 fish.

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17 Aug 2010 20:07 #12 by ulsterboy (barry hughes)
hi..i think my angelfish getting worse,its started to twitch alot like its having a spasm..dorsal fin clamped most of the time..although its feeding a little but not as much..tested all water stats today at my mates,ammonia the lot,everything clear..water temperature at 30c,only from last night to see if it would speed up the cycle of ich..should i maybe pick up a course of med for ich 2morr and try that?anymore advice would be great mate..its really doing my nut in,because i hate seeing them sick.my test kit is'tetra test laborett'has ph,no2,kh,gh,co2..does not have amo,nitrate tested them at my mates today..

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