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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 Jun 2016 22:48 #91 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic killi fish eggs
Once again we'll leave this for Ian to elaborate on - I'll just point out that since your eggs were from Fundulopanchax scheeli they won't be in the 6-month category.

John

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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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27 Jun 2016 23:08 #92 by robert (robert carter)
This is getting complicated , so how long do i leave the eggs or should i say the peat wetted for

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27 Jun 2016 23:16 #93 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic killi fish eggs
It really depends on when the eggs were collected - personally I would leave them in the water until you get some activity from fry - or not, as the case may be now as you will have had them well over a fortnight already.
But, that's only what I would do - Ian will probably have word of what he would do under the circumstances.

John

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27 Jun 2016 23:38 - 27 Jun 2016 23:54 #94 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
Just researched this species and Ian's advice is what I found.
Species prefers spawning on plants and most successful method of incubation is water incubation.
Drying eggs in peat is also used but has not shown as high a hatching rate as water incubation.
Wetting peat incubated eggs is done by using slightly acidic freshwater at a temperature several degrees lower than incubation temperature.
Temperature for raising fry is around 25° c.
So Robert
Wet your peat,wait up to 48 hrs and if no fry show on this second wetting, I would search the peat to see if there are any viable eggs left in it.
If there are eggs, redry and rewet in 2 to 3 weeks. or leave the eggs wet carrying out small water changes daily until fry hatch.
If you cant find any I would not try again with this bätch.
I will send you the N guentheri eggs and hopefully you will have success with them.
Last edit: 27 Jun 2016 23:54 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan).

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28 Jun 2016 04:11 #95 by robert (robert carter)
Ok thanks for your help ,will have a go tonight

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28 Jun 2016 20:22 #96 by robert (robert carter)
well just wet the eggs at 21.21hrs so fingers crossed

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28 Jun 2016 21:08 #97 by robert (robert carter)
the wife thinks I have lost it completely staring into a container with peat moss in it . the more you stare into it you think you see movement but no such luck yet . there has to be something seriously wrong with the mental state of us fish keepers

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28 Jun 2016 21:26 #98 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
With a bit of luck Robert you will get a few fry this time around.
Keep us posted.

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28 Jun 2016 22:38 #99 by robert (robert carter)
Two hours and 12 minutes of staring into a container of peat moss , not a sign of movement , going to bed now so will see in the morning . Might be an idea to buy a bag of peat moss in aldi bag it up into countless tiny bags and sell them for a tenner , and as Dell boy said i could be a million air this time next year :crazy:

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29 Jun 2016 10:13 #100 by robert (robert carter)
well just checked the eggs no sign of movement but will give it another 24 hrs

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29 Jun 2016 10:21 #101 by wildlifebiology93 (Sean O'Sullivan)
Was hoping to read you had a tub of fry this morning Robert.
Pm me your address Robert.
I have a bag of eggs here screaming to be wet and you will have fry by the weekend.

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29 Jun 2016 21:13 #102 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
So due to work commitments and the wife being on crutches and microworm cultures crashing left right and centre I haven't been giving the Killie fry the attention they needed looking through the container tonight and can only see 2 fry I don't know were the rest of them could be I have moss and decaying capatta leaves in the container had a root through them but still no were to be seen maybe they could be just hiding very well

Well hopefully anyway going to be much better prepared for when I hatch my next batch of Killie eggs going to try get a good few live food cultures going and not just depend on the microworms.

I'll have another root around the container tomorrow it's kinda baffling where they could be I have some filter moss in the container I was thinking maybe they Swam into it but cant see any.

Hopefully better news tomorrow.


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Craig

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29 Jun 2016 21:42 #103 by robert (robert carter)
Hi Craig . Sorry to here about the wife , you need to watch those crutches as one around the head could be painful , anyway onto fishy things i have capatta leaves for my shrimp tank are they good for the killi fry , some in the shrimp tank would be fairly rotted . Robert

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29 Jun 2016 21:47 #104 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
They are purely there for the micro organisms for the fry to feed on not for there netruient that lower s ph

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30 Jun 2016 20:44 #105 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
@Robert............ the 6 month incubation would be some species of annual that demand an extended incubation period out of water: your species is NOT one of them.

There is no hard and fast incubation period for any of the killifish................if talking about siamese fighters or many other species of fish I recon we could estimate the incubation period to within half a day.

But not with killifish of any sort.

If you are using guess work then the initial incubation times I said previously are what you would aim for.
But never put all your eggs in one basket so to speak.................stagger the incubation time around the rough times as I mentioned previously if you are going by guess-work.

Now, one way to minimise guess work is to use a microscope to visualise the state of development of the eggs.
However, I tend to only use that method for really tricky to hatch fish that I would be very determined to breed as it does take the fun out of breeding (and it should be about fun).

ian

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30 Jun 2016 23:15 #106 by robert (robert carter)
Sean is very kindly posting me up some eggs which i am hoping to have in the morning , he thinks there is a very good chance of some hatching , so providing they arrive i will wet them tomorrow evening , getting hooked on these fish . The more i research them the more fasintating they become , truely beautiful fish

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07 Jul 2016 07:07 #107 by Hicker12 (Stephen Hickey)
I have 25 fundulopanchax sjoestedti niger delta eggs to hatch at the weekend, its been a while since i had any killis so really looking forward to it. Will keep you's updated on how i get on.

Stephen.

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07 Jul 2016 22:29 #108 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

I have 25 fundulopanchax sjoestedti niger delta eggs to hatch at the weekend, its been a while since i had any killis so really looking forward to it. Will keep you's updated on how i get on.

Stephen.


A species well worth keeping. :cool:

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16 Jul 2016 08:11 #109 by Hicker12 (Stephen Hickey)
Update, 0 hatch rate! Eggs looked white, maybe a fungus or dried out? Have ordered more eggs from a different seller.

Stephen.

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