club members only section

john wrote:

so if say at the next itfs agm it was decided that we wanted a private section what would the implications be.dont get me wrong here this would have to be put forward and voted on.

Excellent idea number 2. The first one was a club members section.

Might be worth actually posting again.


Daragh

Topics not intresting enough for you no

You to big for posting on our threads now.

fishmad1234 wrote:

You to big for posting on our threads now.

is this directed at someone in particular or just for everybody
john

Well it wasent for you so dont worry about it


craig

john wrote:

so if say at the next itfs agm it was decided that we wanted a private section what would the implications be.dont get me wrong here this would have to be put forward and voted on.

It would show that there are a group of People that want to be separate to everyone else, to have special privileges, who think that because they have paid to be members of that Club that they are special.

How long has this great Forum been in existence without a special club section?, anyone would think we were bursting at the seams with new members. The reason there are few Admin and Mods is because the Site works perfectly well as it is .

Last question, given the , as you stated, low number of paid Memberships, what would the chances of the 50 or so, swaying the opinions of normal People who just want to chill on a decent Website?



Kev.

This is idiotic first of all giving out about new members not posting and then wanting a section to yourself.
If you want something like that why don't you get your own clubs to set up there own websites and leave this site for the greater good of everybody with no exclusivity.

If you want this site to fail badly really push this idea what do you have to hide from the rest of us are we below your calibre of people.

I really think some people might be well respected due to age but i think newer members will take offense to this suggestion i know i do and good luck to the 5 people who stay if this is put through

Daragh owens said it might be worth while posting again in a members only section

Good one.

Kev.

I think there is a bit of trolling going on here!

stretnik wrote:

Yep but not behind closed Doors.

I'm sorry John, I hope you don't think I am being in any way personal but I've witnessed exclusivity over many years, I'm no Spring Chicken, People ostracised due to Colour, Origin, Religion, Political views, Social Class Ad infinitum this is, in my opinion a veiled example of enforced exclusivity, because of need to pay to be included.

It's as bad as me saying, to access certain information, I need to have made 600 Posts otherwise, I am not deemed experienced enough to access same. Obviously this doesn't include the 10 Post rule for first timers because it prevents abuse of the site.

Kev.

kev this is not an attempt at exclusivity and anybody who personally knows me knows that nothing could be further from the truth.any work i have done in the past with the itfs hasbeen in attempt to try and get everybody involved.we have a small but vibrant club who meet once a month and hve an excellent time and i would just like to try carry that on throught out the month.offending people or causing uproar was never my intention here
john

Hi John,

I don't know you personally but I have to say, Hand on Heart, that ANYONE I have ever spoken to, where your name pops up has only ever had great and supportive things to say about you, stuff that the majority of us here will ever know about your behind the scenes activity re shows, how much time and effort you give, of your own accord, you are a Gentleman and a quiet reserved one at that so absolutely no malice intended in any of my replies, I just hate separation of people whatever the method or the intention may be.

All's good John.

Kev.

@ john gannon this idea is excludeing people tho an exclusive club where friends can chit chat.


No one on here is bigger then the forum


but i think at the moment a few think they are bigger and better then every one else on the forum

[quote="Jambomac" post=10
If you want something like that why don't you get your own clubs to set up there own websites and leave this site for the greater good of everybody with no exclusivity.


and what shall we call this website the irish tropical fish society forum no 2

fishmad1234 wrote:

@ john gannon this idea is excludeing people tho an exclusive club where friends can chit chat.


No one on here is bigger then the forum


but i think at the moment a few think they are bigger and better then every one else on the forum

craig anybody can join the club its not exclusive in any way shape or form,its not as if you have to nominated or anything like that.there is discounts for people out of work,students etc.all the work that has gone on over the years has been about getting people involved in both club and forum activity
john

Yous should call it people that dont want to be grouped with the general public.com

If your refering to this site its called irish fishkeepers and you can call it what ever you want.

All you have to do is change the .com to .ie or .org i'm sure somebody can help you there.

Here you go

www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.a...=16811&isc=cjc695tnw

fishmad1234 wrote:

Yous should call it people that dont want to be grouped with the general public.com

Bahahahahaha!

i think the idea is stupid, totally agree with kev and draco's points made,

there are less and less members online and even less posting,
we should be coming up with ways of involving people more in the forum, not trying divide them.???

steve.

all i keep hearing is about less and less people online and even less posting ,obviosly then something is already wrong and maybe a change in direction is whats needed if not seperate sections for different people then what.[im open to suggestions]
could the dwindling numbers be due to maybe people already thinking there is an elitism already here
if you cant put something in the website suggestions without it being slaughtered maybe there is no real future for the forum
john

dyco619 wrote:

i think the idea is stupid, totally agree with kev and draco's points made,

there are less and less members online and even less posting,
.

maybe they are concerned that their ideas and opinions may be dismissed as "stupid", on a public forum.

after what i have just read on this needlessly emotive thread, who now will be brave enough to express an idea or make a suggestion.

I personally think that the Forum works, it does what it was set out to do, provide information and help when needed. The Club meets and advertises the event on the Website, what is wrong with conveying any findings or things of interest back here on the Forum, the Club exists already, people who want to attend will do so, those who don't, won't. If there are things discussed that are not Aquatically related and people feel the need to discuss them in more depth, use the Phone, Mobile, IM Skype etc we could even include a Skype link to allow chatting but why does it need to be the Domain of paying subscribers, so, you pay and you have access to a special, locked section of the forum AND have access freely to the musings of those who haven't paid.

I just don't see what's to be achieved by including a pay and you say section when other types of technology abound to facilitate the desires of paid members.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like a form of punishment for the freeloaders, we can read your discussions but because we paid, you can't read ours.

Kev.

derek wrote:

dyco619 wrote:

i think the idea is stupid, totally agree with kev and draco's points made,

there are less and less members online and even less posting,
.

maybe they are concerned that their ideas and opinions may be dismissed as "stupid", on a public forum.

after what i have just read on this needlessly emotive thread, who now will be brave enough to express an idea or make a suggestion.

well derek i say it as i see it, i dont sugar coat my words for anyone!
im not knocking john personally or having a go at him for bringing up a suggestion im just giving my opinion on the idea itself,
nor do i take offence at anything said back to me.
steve.

I cant in any way see why this type of idea should be promoted or pushed. We are looking for new members,yet on the other hand we are saying we have the old school who can stick to themselves. It doesnt stack up in my opinion,and Id agree fully with what Kev said.
It doesnt in any way give others the right to have a go off John Gannon either. Thats more of an issue I feel, we start a suggestion or an emotive topic and someone somewhere decides to start talking about drugs and crap.Thats half the issues on this site,straying topics and silly posts.

It is tad more annoying that everytime a half decent thread is opened up that it decends into a name calling exercise.

Going back to the topic, If members want to chat amongst themselves,there are numberous other sites such as msn,facebook etc, that can be used for them to post through,but I feel creating an us and them (and make no mistake that is exactly how it will be perceived), will only segregate people on here and drive them away.


Gavin

derek wrote:

dyco619 wrote:

i think the idea is stupid, totally agree with kev and draco's points made,

there are less and less members online and even less posting,
.

maybe they are concerned that their ideas and opinions may be dismissed as "stupid", on a public forum.

after what i have just read on this needlessly emotive thread, who now will be brave enough to express an idea or make a suggestion.

I don't think most of us are afraid of making suggestion's as we probably believe before we post it will be shot down regardless of this post.

We are all big boys and girls build a bridge and get over it, as nobody has attacked the poster only the post i think we should be entitled to our opinion.
As suggested by stretnik there are many ways to accomplish what you want to do, instant messaging would be one aswell

I have seen some comments in posts here that I am not thinking are in keeping with the spirit of the forum as they have hinted as 'stupidity' etc.

The points made against this suggestion are rather negative and seem to support a backward move in using the internet.

Instant messaging or PMs are not the way forward.
If I, say, or any other club member wanted to start a discussion then how could we do it? I could send a PM to myself....lot of use that would be.
There is lawful codification controlling the way that persons details can be distributed....I personally do not mind my details that I am a member of the ITFS being passed to anyone else, but I would not be happy to receive a list of who else is a club member (as that would be breaking the law of this country).

So...how would global PM threads be started?
I couldn't find any hint in the posts here on how to do that without it becoming in-box spam.

ian

I think YOU are losing the thread running through this, it is that ONLY PAYING MEMBERS WOULD HAVE ACCESS !! end of, not that anything resembling a Chat room couldn't be done, it is TO THE EXCLUSION OF OTHERS that is at the nub of the discussion and to say the valid points being made by individuals contra the idea of a separate discussion room accessible via payment is negative, is negative in it's self.

Kev.

Where did you read comments of stupidity ian

Of course there negative because there against the this idea, they're are hardly going to be positive.

I did suggest starting your own website which would benefit you guy's who want your exclusivity.

I don't think we are the one's who are backwards, intelect is not measured in a PHD.

Look it, the issue of exclusivity and cliques is quite obvious for long term members - now it's just coming to the fore.

There was a post not so long ago by a Moderator saying he forgot about the forum after going outside for a smoke. The backup on his behalf was that he puts up a few shillings to support the forum and is (some how) allowed to get away with that sort of comment. In my opinion that's treating the forum with disdain.

If that Moderator thinks he's too good for the forum, just leave, and I'll pay twice what your presently paying.

PM for details.


Dave