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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Cichlids tank setup

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13 Feb 2009 17:53 #1 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
getting the last few bits i need this weekend for my cichlid tank setup, some coral sand and coral rock. Just wondering do the rocks need cleaning or treatment before i put them in the tank, and if they have to be cleaned whats the best way?

And does the sand need cleaning/ washing before i put it in the tank, guessing yes on this one but just to be safe:unsure:

Any suggestions on the best way to cycle the tank, thinking a fishless cycle but is there are better or faster way of cycling? Heard of some good baterica you can buy to speed up the cycle but i don,t want to screw things up all because i rush the cycling.

Planning a Lake Malawi mumba setup with lots of color thinking of Labidochromis Caeruleus ( Electric Yellow Labido)and Pseudotropheus demasoni for a start. Any taughts from any cichlid guru,s out there on this selection or any other colorful compatible friend for these two?

Think i read to get a mix of 1 male to 3/4 females of each fish, is this valid?


Sorry for all the questions but just eager to get the setup right so the fish will have a happy new home. hopefully!!!


Thanks

GB

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13 Feb 2009 18:24 #2 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
I keep Tanganyikan Cichlids,

Set up a new tank over christmas and did not clean the coral sand as well as I should and decided that I had loads of time to let it settle down. BAD mistake Every time I do anything with the tank clean, moved rocks, try to catch a fish or anything the coral sand clouds the water again.

This wrecks my head, Moral of the story spend a long time cleaning your gravel now !!

Seed your new filter with one of your running filters if you can will speed things up no end !!

hope this helps

Mick

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13 Feb 2009 20:34 #3 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Mick0075 wrote:

I keep Tanganyikan Cichlids,

Set up a new tank over christmas and did not clean the coral sand as well as I should and decided that I had loads of time to let it settle down. BAD mistake Every time I do anything with the tank clean, moved rocks, try to catch a fish or anything the coral sand clouds the water again.

This wrecks my head, Moral of the story spend a long time cleaning your gravel now !!

Seed your new filter with one of your running filters if you can will speed things up no end !!

hope this helps

Mick

Soak your rocks in a bath of coarse salt after you rinse it well enough. Leave it soaked for 3 days then rinse again

Fishkeeping CV: Co-founded, 1st President of the only surviving Fishkeeping Club (Accredited by Dept. of Fisheries) in the Philippines (mypalhs.com). I have mostly reared tropicals - Arowanas and monster fishes. My oldest arowana is 13years old (died in a tropical storm). Ive since reared a Black,...

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13 Feb 2009 23:05 #4 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
cheers lads thanks for the info, its a big help and much appreciated.

Any pics of your tank Ian


GB

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18 Feb 2009 22:05 #5 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Finally setting up my tank this weekend, about time:blush: Spent such a long time researching and deciding what to get so NOW i am ready to go at last.:laugh: :laugh:

Have rock in bath at moment as recommended by Ian and collecting sand tomorrow from Aquatic Solutions in Ashbourne.

So to speed up the process would anyone have some mature filter that they might be willing to give me, have 2 tetratec 1200 so it would be ideal if i could get some mature filter to put in the 2 canisters.

Living in Trim but always up in Dublin Blanchardstown ,Finglas area but willing to travel if necessary, any help much appreciated

Cheers

GB

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18 Feb 2009 22:17 #6 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
hi GB
sorry can't help with your filter media problem but best of luck with the new tank.

Lar

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19 Feb 2009 08:58 #7 by 2poc (2poc)
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Hi Gerry,

Great to hear you're ready to go.

Demansoni have a really bad reputation for aggression..
Supposed to be kept in species groups on 15+

A very similar fish is the salousi which has barred males & bright orange females, still pretty aggressive but doesn't have a reputation like Demansoni.

Re: filter media - I have only just cleaned my own filters out so no good to you I'm afraid... It is definitely the route to getting your tank going quickly though.

I don't think you'll have any problem from getting some from someone on here.

Where are you planning on getting your fish?

Cheers,
Patrick

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19 Feb 2009 10:02 #8 by stan (stan)
Replied by stan (stan) on topic Re:Cichlids tank setup
i always thought the same about demansoni but i deceided to take the risk and bought six juvies, they settled in fine and all found their own little terrority.One of them did take a hiding but i moved it to a fry tank and let it recuperate for about a month and its back in the main tank with its own rock face. the whole group are all feeding well and have their own little pecking order, once you provide a decent amount of rock work for them to stake claim to i have found it to be ok. in saying i could have been just pure lucky,

stan

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19 Feb 2009 20:16 #9 by mrsFishpatrick (Astrid Fitzpatrick)
Sounds like a great project, I would love to help you with filter media but you won't want mine, I have some strange disease in the tank that is killing my cichlids, i'm sure someone else can help you this time:dry:

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19 Feb 2009 21:07 #10 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Thanks for the advice and well wishes guys looking forward to getting stuck in and finally getting the tank setup, it was a bit depressing to be looking at an empty tank for the past 6 weeks but lets no dwell on the past:) :)

Patrick

Thanks for advice on the demansoni, going to start off getting a few yellow labs and see how things progress from there once the tank is up and runnning. Was in Aquatic Solutions tonight to collect my sand and was talking to Andy the owner. He can get most fish within a week or two so am going to get the first batch there and see how things go but on first impressions he is a sound lad and has good advice.
Where do you get your fish, any recommendations????

Once again thanks to everyone

GB

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19 Feb 2009 21:25 #11 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
Gerry...
I'm confused :unsure: .....is your new tank going to be your old tank with a new set-up... have you been running the old tank with no fish in it..if so would your tank filter not be matured already..or have you had an empty tank with no water in it for the past 6 weeks...

:unsure: :unsure: :unsure: Lar

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19 Feb 2009 21:42 #12 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Confuse myself sometimes Lar:) :) I only have the one tank unfortunately so it is sitting idle for the last 6 weeks. Had a community tropical tank with gravel and 3d backround. Decided it was time for a change so i spend the last few months looking in to different setups, my 3 favourite were
#1 marine setup, fish only with liverock
#2 Mixed barb setup with tiger, albino, green etc.
#3 Lake Malawi Cichlids mbuna setup.

After much research and a lot of head wrecking decided on the cichlid setup so i have to rebuild the tank from scratch, changed the backround and added in external filters, finally got rid of the internal!!!

Was using organic aqua in the original tank so that was why i shut it down as i didn,t want to keep buying it knowing that i was going to change the tank so a buddy of mine got a lot of fish for free.

Well after all that waffle lar i hope it clears things up, or are you more confused now than before:blush:

GB

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19 Feb 2009 22:15 #13 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)

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19 Feb 2009 22:20 #14 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Mick
Thanks a million for your offer, will give you a buzz tomorrow and hopefully can meet you somewhere over the weekend.

Cheers

GB

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19 Feb 2009 22:34 #15 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
No bother

talk to you tomorrow and no bother meeting over the weekend and will be around the shopping centre at some point

Mick

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20 Feb 2009 19:44 #16 by Dalay (Mark Daly)
Hi Gerry, I'll sort you out with some media if you want I can also sort you out with some yellow labs. I'm in Enfield.

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20 Feb 2009 22:24 #17 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Hi Dalay would be well interested in a few yellow labs off you, this was the first fish i was planning to put in the tank so i would be delighted to take a few off you.

Getting some mature filter off Mick tomorrow so the tank will be cycled in no time.I am usually in Enfield every day, meet a few lads from work there so if i could organise to meet you sometime during the week that suits you it would be brillant.


Cheers

GB

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21 Feb 2009 21:58 #18 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Mick thanks a million for today, it a shame i didn;t get to meet you myself but thanks for the effort and time, hopeful get to meet up sometime and talk fish:laugh: :laugh:

Setup went find today accept one of my tetratec 1200 is damaged, it's leaking from the motor head casing, worked fine for about 3 hours and then by chance i just happened to be at the tank and water just started pouring out of it. Really annoying :angry: when s**t like this happens so have the hassle of getting a new one from the online shop i bought it from, should be interesting but just a pain in the arse when you waited so long to get a tank together.

Besides the hassle everything else went fine, happy enough with setup so with mature filter in place now and one working filter i am still going ahead and putting a limited stock in.

Dalay sent you a PM.

Thanks again for everyone help and advice especailly Mick and 2Poc.


Cheers

GB

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22 Feb 2009 00:51 #19 by Dalay (Mark Daly)
Hi Gerry, I'm out of work at the moment so I'm at home almost all of the time, i'll send you a PM with my details so next time your in Enfield just give me a buzz.

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22 Feb 2009 09:58 #20 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Cheers Dalay will give you a shout on monday, will be passing by about 4 o clock.

GB

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23 Feb 2009 09:04 #21 by 2poc (2poc)
Replied by 2poc (2poc) on topic Re:Cichlids tank setup
Sounds like things are moving along nicely Gerry.

Re: the Tetratec, there was a problem with the part that fits the hoses into the filter on a big batch of these.

Tetratec are replacing the part free of charge if you get in touch with them.

Petstop in blanch will be getting in a delivery of cichlids shortly, I've ordered a few for myself. Well worth checking it out when the delivery comes in as there are usually some stunners.

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23 Feb 2009 20:53 #22 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Hi 2poc
Zooplus.ie where i bought the filter is sending out a replacement so should have it by the end of the week, hopefully there will be no problems with this one. Would you recommend i send the parts back to Tetratec to be on the safe side??

Have one up and running since Saturday with no probs, the other one started leaking from the power head after about 2 hours. When i took the filter apart the water just kept leaking out of the lid section unlike the other filter that did work. Does this sound like the results of these doggy parts?

Must take a trip over to Petstore when shipment comes in and see what looks good.

Cheers

GB

PS, Thanks a million Mark for the fish today, they seem to like there new home, flying around have a good nose around the rocks, probably staking claim to the best sites:) :)

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23 Feb 2009 21:01 #23 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
Only getting a chance to get back to you now,
Gald to here that your tank is up and running, and with fish !!,

post a picture over the next few days and lets see how things are going,

will meet up some time to talk fish,

Mick

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23 Feb 2009 21:07 #24 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
No probs Mick will get the camera out when i get the chance. It mad such a difference stocking a tank so fast with a mature filter so i am going to let it rest for a week or so and then get a few more fish in. Hopefully Petstore in Blanch will time it right for me with a deliverly of nice fish.

Thanks again

GB

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24 Feb 2009 08:39 #25 by 2poc (2poc)
Replied by 2poc (2poc) on topic Re:Cichlids tank setup
I reckon you will be grand with the replacement filter Gerry.

After saying that though, I got home to a leaking tetratec myself last night...
The seal was dripping, not too much but enough to cause real problems if it went unnoticed.

I'm starting to wonder about tetratec generally, they are powerful filters but I have heard of so many problems..

I'm not sure if I'll be buying one again.

Definitely stick up a few pics when you can !!

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24 Feb 2009 13:25 #26 by nonie (leonie troy)
Hi well done on the new setup. Do you have any pics of it?

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24 Feb 2009 15:05 #27 by derek (Derek Doyle)
hi gerry
how old was the tetratec before it started leaking (was it brand new) and what model was it. i got one recently and am a bit concerned about
possible leaking.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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24 Feb 2009 20:12 #28 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Derek
Filter was brand new just unpacked out of box, got about 2 to 3 hours before it started leaking.It is a tetratec ex1200. Got 2 together one leaked and one seems to be woking fine so at the moment my opinion of Teteatec is 50:50:laugh: :laugh:

2Poc
Sent a mail to Tetra last nite to see what their stands was, i was hoping they could tell me if my filters were one of the faulty batch that was manufactured by means of serial number or batch number on the filter but only got a server responding mail saying that the email was received and will be answered in due course.

As a precaution i drilled a 3mm hole in the back of the outlet pipe in the tank about 2" below the water line so if i am unfortunate enough to have a leakage hopeful my tank will only empty out a small bit of water from the tank.

Nonie
Will take a few pics tomorrow nite and post them up, have to go digging for my camera, the house is in upheaval at the moment, 2 babies on the way so sanding,painting assemblying etc. etc. But its all worth it:) :)

Cheers

GB

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28 Feb 2009 20:48 #29 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
A few pics of new tank setup, still have a bit of work to do mainly to hide the pump better, must get a way to hide it behind some rock with a few sunction pads.

Also if anyone can advise, i have the spray bar setup on the 2 tetratec at the moment, think of removing them and just leaving the inlet pipe as is without the spraybar. I know the spraybar disturbs the water surface but will it still function ok if i remove them??
I have the spraybar placed below the waterline for noise reduction, tank is in sitting room and above water line is noisy enough.












Have a few yellow labs can anyonew id the other fish in tank??

And feedback positve or negitive welcome, still undecided about wood in tank, not too worried about pH as tap water is high and coral sand sould balance the wood out.

Cheers

GB

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28 Feb 2009 21:13 #30 by peter (peter campbell)
theres a few malawis for sale in the For Sale section

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