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Hi John , very sorry to hear this , to me you have always been helpful . Now a rant , i joined this forum because of the very knowledgable poeple on it , and it has been invaluable to me . I also thought the idea of this forum was to pass knowledge and experiences to other members , even if some people didnt agree with the posting , after all what works for one person might not for another , so why have we nowgone to a situation of having a disrespectful go at each other . Surely the rule should be if you havent something good or helpful to say then keep your mouth shut . A couple of the koi forums i am on i have seen members band for a lot less than whats going on hear . So everyone lets get back to passing knowledge and experience on to one anther and enjoy this brilliant hobby

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Hi John , very sorry to hear this , to me you have always been helpful . Now a rant , i joined this forum because of the very knowledgable poeple on it , and it has been invaluable to me . I also thought the idea of this forum was to pass knowledge and experiences to other members , even if some people didnt agree with the posting , after all what works for one person might not for another , so why have we nowgone to a situation of having a disrespectful go at each other . Surely the rule should be if you havent something good or helpful to say then keep your mouth shut . A couple of the koi forums i am on i have seen members band for a lot less than whats going on hear . So everyone lets get back to passing knowledge and experience on to one anther and enjoy this brilliant hobby

Robert this has all become about from being lectured about the recession in my opinion days of moaning about the recession are well and truly over people have there ups and people have there downs it's a part of life and having a go about people buying online is a bit much also people will of course always want to save a few quid and everyone on here can agree prices in the shops are through the roof.


Your right Robert the basis of this forum is to help each other share experiences and all get along and at the moment it's the complete opposite.


Paul if you feel I was being insulting to Ian I apoligise if you read my previous posts you can see I stated how invaluable he is to the hobbie and the forum certainly needs people like him to be more active.

Dear Paul.....the decline of all forums is not down to John's administration

Forums are down several reasons

1...if a question has already been asked 100 times ...someone is not going to ask again whenever answers are already there

2. People do check there Facebook accounts more often than this forum...so people get answers there quicker

3 . Google can give answers quicker than waiting for a reply to a question

4. YouTube has so many people now doing blogs and giving there opinions..which is also quicker and sometimes these guys are aiming there videos at both fishkeeprrs and not fishkeeprrs and just putting up videos for entertainment

It amazes me how quickly someone can type something like that without considering all the good work John has put in over the years...

John thanks for all your advise and help over the years and I suspect many will be sad to see you stand down.

Robert you made a point about people being banned for a lot less that's going on here


What exactly is going on here in your opinion


To me it's just disagreeing with some people's comments I don't see how anyone has been disrespectful to each other Ian posted and people posted to agree with them comments or disagree with the comments I fail to see how anyone has been disrespectful.

And people disagreed with ians points


Johnh was publicly put down in the open forum.

I don't understand how a member of this forum could be so disrepectfull to its administrator...

yet there is a website suggestions section and this member has never made a thread as to how the site could be improved

I will now make a sudjestion on how the forum can be improved . Cut the bickering out and lets get back to the joy of fish keeping and using the invaluably knowledge people have to improve the hobby for everyone

I personally don't think John did any wrong , the decline of activity on the forum isn't his fault, many forums are just dying away, I don't think people actually understand the effort John has put into the forum, I don't believe he has to step down, John has a lot of information and is like the first one to always reply

Very sad to here this John.........I met you on one occasion and have had numerous text conversations with you and I have found you to be an extremely nice and generous person,and who has devoted so much time and effort into keeping this forum alive that i'm a bit taken a back that it has come to this!!

I don't have a Facebook account for a long while now but I know from speaking to people and from reading on other forums that all kinds of groups are popping up all over the place on it and this seems to be the reason that I have found why forums (well the ones that I do be on anyway) are in serious decline...........one forum I do be on (which is the 3rd busiest in Ireland) had a recent post about it and they say they have lost 75% of people to the forum in the last year alone which is a massive hit.

Ger

My 2 bobs worth is as far as my experience with john goes is that he has always been more than helpfull with advising me on any problem i have presented to him so thanks for ur time and advice john, im not on facebook either its sad to me the effect that bs has on all manner of society in my opinion

Absolutely NOT your fault John....Facebook is to blame...Everybody has emigrated over there because the world feckin demands it now....

We are all actually forced to use Facebook in the modern era which is very sad as the damn thing is plain toxic at times...

Facebook is now a necessary evil in life just like mobile phones and cars...

The even more unfortunate thing about Facebook fish keeping groups is that half the info on there is complete and utter crap...I cringe at some of the stuff ive read...Luckily I learned all I know through this Forum over the many years Ive been keeping fish and am so much wiser for it...

Thanks for everything John...

I'm not on Facebook it's absolute poison

Facebook is Facebook it's built be a custom descussion board why have that shit when you can have the real thing here (That was built by fishkeepers)

For fishkeepers it's a no brainer.


I was on the night shift last night machine was down so I had a bit of time at the pc I decided to scroll through old posts on here.

People talking people asking questions people asking other people's opinions on what fish to get or what way to change their tank around


Posting pictures of their tanks

Posting pictures of their fish


And to be honest I don't know if it's the 24 hours without sleep but it's really sad and kind of upsetting I have been on this forum a long time on and off through good times in life and extremely bad times and this forum defenitly helped me through a lot of the bad times and the hobbie in general.


All it would take is a small bit of effort from every member on here to bring the forum back to greatness.


Something small to see who really wants the forum to succeed a little effort by Friday every member who want s to be active on here regardless of how many people you know introduce yourself and the fish you keep and how many tanks you have with lots and lots of pictures and videos.


Try get the forum back to basics people talking about their fish what fish they have on their wish list what they want to keep in the future ect ECT ect.


It's not as if we are stuck for anything to talk about we all have the one thing in common that brought us here in the first place.





Now I need to get some sleep hahahahahahah

Another night shift awaits me in a few hours.


Regards

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Good idea craig i will.defo do that once i have time maybee not bye friday the missus is about to pop so im a bit flat out, hopefully i can keep the kids off facebook but i doubth it ha but i will be defo passing on the knowledge of fishkeeping i have learnt on this forum and hopefully one day they will be on here 2

On the subjuct of facebook that i dont know much about is there any way we can advertise the forum on there and maybee attract some new members this way and put some new life into the forum

Good idea ,

We could talk to more pet stores and ask them to promote our forum.

It’s snide remarks that you have slipped in over the years like your stepping aside so paul can take over and prove his finger pointing right. The idea of this site was to help people with fish keeping questions and share our experiences but for some reason that always seemed to turn in to people bitching and moaning at each other that’s what I don’t like. I personally know a few people who joined this forum and left because of this reason. John Instead of being someone that’s just there to make sure things are running smoothly and commenting on you specialized subject etc your involved in absolutely everything on the site which can take away from your genuinely good advice. I certainly never implied my opinion was anything else other than my own. Maybe it’s just time for a little shake up to try get the interest going again. I certainly don’t intend to try get involved in an administrative role

Not sure if this would work, but what about this fourm starting a utube channel; as I said I don't know how these things work but I find I get a lot of info from utube, but would like to see some local faces (Irish ) there.

I wouldcertainly be interested , but you already know i dont know my way around a computor, so would need help with it

I would be interested in part taking myself

What ever we are doing we have to take action quickly