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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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31 Mar 2011 19:33 #31 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
very likely a bacterial infection from the picture. The gills look good, so that means not a chlorine problem.

The eHSa 2000 should sort that out, but keep a careful eye on it.

Some strains of angelfish have, however, been bred for their colours but the offshot of that is that the skin layers are rather thin (often we see this on some yellow angels having pink gills). So, seeing pink is not always an indication of an illness, but then again the yellow colour morphs showing pink gills do have an inbuilt physical disability to go with that colour strain. (that is just in case you come across those particular colour strains on your buying travels).

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01 Apr 2011 09:34 #32 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Thanks Ian.

He seems perfectly happy which gives me some hope! It could well be the breeding, I just hadn't noticed it before, but then again, I wasn't looking until all these problems came up.

Thanks again for your advice.
Denver

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02 Apr 2011 08:42 #33 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Hi all. Not a good way to start the weekend but I just got up to find that the angel with the bloody nose died. He appeared ok when I checked the tank at about 5am. I've takes a picture which I'll post later so someone can see but he has a lot of green buildup in the top of his head.

Denver

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02 Apr 2011 09:01 #34 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Hi Denver,

Are the Fish taking the Food?

Any Fish that already have the Bacteria within their bodies for a while are unlikely to make it thru, it's the most recently infected that the meds will help.

Kev.

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02 Apr 2011 09:12 #35 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Soz to here that Denver.
The angel looked quite young, and a bacterial infection may have gone too far in a small body.

But....as Kev says....think of the others now.

ian

Hi Denver,

Are the Fish taking the Food?

Any Fish that already have the Bacteria within their bodies for a while are unlikely to make it thru, it's the most recently infected that the meds will help.

Kev.


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02 Apr 2011 10:33 #36 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Thanks lads. I'm not confident that his buddy will survive. Looking pretty stressed. I'm going home to do a 35/40% water change now and add more eSHa 2000. This is the 3rd day for the eSHa. Is it wrong to continue using for another few days? have been feeding them on the crushed up pellets Kev kindly gave me and they're all taking it so hopefully it will clear the internal problems

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02 Apr 2011 11:02 #37 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
eSHa 2000 is a day 1 dose a x-drops, and days 2 and 3 should be half that x-drops.

I would not like to be quoted as saying you could continue the dosing as that is not a good idea with any medication.
But, eSHa 2000 is one of the few that you could get away with (it's milder than Myxazin....don't mess ever with Myxazin). eSHa 2000 can be mixed with certain other medications (whereas Myxazin can't).

You could double the day 2 and 3 dose and extend that for a few days with eSHa 2000.
If your water is too soft (GH<5), then use the double dose anyway.

(double dose eSHa 2000 would be a standard dose for preventing fungus in eggs).

{In general....Medications will damage the kidney and liver of fish (and some will cause brain damage if used for too long), so you don't really want to be extended dosing past the recommended amount.}


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02 Apr 2011 11:10 #38 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Grand, I won't mess about with it so. I'll discontinue using it after today and see how things go

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02 Apr 2011 11:54 #39 by paul (paul)
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Hi Dude

Sorry to hear you lost the fish and are still having trouble as stretnik asked are the fish eating

if you get chance have a read through the esha site

www.eshalabs.com/disease.htm

Also chin up you will get this sorted and then you can see about breeding those Angels

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02 Apr 2011 14:39 #40 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Hey lads.

Yep they're all eating. I've just given them their first bit for today and the last remaining angle who has been hiding in between two of the rocks all day hasn't taken anything. Even when I was changing the water earlier, he didn't stirr. I don't think he's long for this world I'm afraid.

Below are the photos I took which I mentioned this morning. As you can see, huge amount of green on his top half and weird dotted line along his flank?

It's a REAL shame cos the blue on these guys is just starting to show through as well :((


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02 Apr 2011 18:57 #41 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
The green may well be just a nerve response to the brain starting to die. Angel fish do have a green shimmer anyway.

I'm just curious as to if that is red coming from the anus on the 1st picture.

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02 Apr 2011 20:21 #42 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
At a guess, I'd say it's a food pellet that found it's way into the bowl I put him into after removing from the tank.

His buddy is now dead as well. :((

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05 Apr 2011 22:34 #43 by paul (paul)
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Hey Denver just wondering have things started to settel down for you yet

Regards

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06 Apr 2011 09:04 #44 by denverbre (Denver Breslin)
Hey Paul.

Thanks for checking in. SEEMS to be settling (touch wood). Haven't had any more loss. I'll be feeding them anti-bacterial food up to Sunday which was kindly donated by Kev. It recommends not to feed for longer than 10 days. The remaining fish seem to be more lively and happier now.

I haven't switched the air pump off since this time last week also. I did a 50% change on Saturday and I'm going to do a 25% change tonight when I get home and another 25% change this Sunday then revert to my weekly 20% change from then on. I'll give it another 2 weeks before I attempt to stock back up again.

When I go about adding new fish, I'm going to use a dose of eSHa 2000 the morning before I put them in just to make sure there are no nasties in the water and feed all on the anti-bacterial food for a few days following. Hopefully this will be the end of my problems!

Thanks again to all who have given invaluable advice!

Denver

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