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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Fish Diseases
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09 Feb 2007 12:58 #1
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This is a subject that realy gets to me. after all the years I have kept fish Tropicals & Marines and all that has been writen. I still hear my fish is dying/sick/stressed and have tried this and that.
How many of you quarantine a fish for 6 weeks?and be honest.
How well do you know your Dealer
How many ask your dealer who his supplier is.
How long have the fish been on display.
What else is in the tanks with the fish you want.
What are the temps of his tanks.
Are they on a centralised filter system
Can he issolate each tank for treatment.
What is his turnover of stock like. if he says rapid then they are straight in straight out.
The list goes on & on
In a lot of cases you get what you sew.
We don't own the Oceans and Rivers we are simply the Caretakers.
This goes for for it's inhabitants.
Now I eagerly awaite for it to hit the Fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many of you quarantine a fish for 6 weeks?and be honest.
How well do you know your Dealer
How many ask your dealer who his supplier is.
How long have the fish been on display.
What else is in the tanks with the fish you want.
What are the temps of his tanks.
Are they on a centralised filter system
Can he issolate each tank for treatment.
What is his turnover of stock like. if he says rapid then they are straight in straight out.
The list goes on & on
In a lot of cases you get what you sew.
We don't own the Oceans and Rivers we are simply the Caretakers.
This goes for for it's inhabitants.
Now I eagerly awaite for it to hit the Fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09 Feb 2007 14:24 #2
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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Russel
Where was the nearest shops/who were theyIn Ireland did you get some/all your marine stock in the 80´S what did you think of them, are they still around?
Sean
Where was the nearest shops/who were theyIn Ireland did you get some/all your marine stock in the 80´S what did you think of them, are they still around?
Sean
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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09 Feb 2007 14:46 #3
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Hi Jack
I started with Marines in thye late 50's 1959 to be exact. That was in the u.k.
The shop was Arundell fish & aviary's Portsmouth still going to day. the chap that ran it ( John Taylor ) was a stickler for not selling stock unless you could answere some basic questions about what you wanted, His specialit was Discus. in those days there were Tefe's & wild browns
mostly. (Where is the wild stock now)
The Marines were much similar as to day as regards to STOCK fish
i.e Tangs- Butterfly's-Gobies- and surprisingly the BLUE RING OCTOPUS!!!
they didn't realise how lethal these were!!!!
Coral was then only dead organ pipe, nothing live. certainly no live rock.
Now to to-day in Ireland.
There is only one place to shop Fish AnticsIt is run by Simon Gilroy, he has been in the buisiness many years and like me was a discus fanatic,
He is extreemly knowledgable- his stock immaculate- his shop first class.
He willilngly will keep a fish to one side for a week or so to ensure its condition. he will not sell an iffy fish or coral'
Some say he is expensive . this may be so but you get what you pay for.
I willingly paid some high prices but I was guaranteed first class stock.
I started with Marines in thye late 50's 1959 to be exact. That was in the u.k.
The shop was Arundell fish & aviary's Portsmouth still going to day. the chap that ran it ( John Taylor ) was a stickler for not selling stock unless you could answere some basic questions about what you wanted, His specialit was Discus. in those days there were Tefe's & wild browns
mostly. (Where is the wild stock now)
The Marines were much similar as to day as regards to STOCK fish
i.e Tangs- Butterfly's-Gobies- and surprisingly the BLUE RING OCTOPUS!!!
they didn't realise how lethal these were!!!!
Coral was then only dead organ pipe, nothing live. certainly no live rock.
Now to to-day in Ireland.
There is only one place to shop Fish AnticsIt is run by Simon Gilroy, he has been in the buisiness many years and like me was a discus fanatic,
He is extreemly knowledgable- his stock immaculate- his shop first class.
He willilngly will keep a fish to one side for a week or so to ensure its condition. he will not sell an iffy fish or coral'
Some say he is expensive . this may be so but you get what you pay for.
I willingly paid some high prices but I was guaranteed first class stock.
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09 Feb 2007 15:08 #4
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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Yes, the blue rings are risky, how long have you been back in Ireland/keeping marines? 80´s 90´s?
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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09 Feb 2007 15:22 #5
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I emegrated to Ireland on Padd'ys day 2000. been here 7 years although my brother has been over here 30 years. Mariied an Irish lass. my stepson married an irish lass and moved over here 5 years ago.
Can't say a bad word, as far as my wife and I are concerned it was the best move we ever made.
We love the Irish people and the way of life.
The villagers where we live welcomed us and made the transition great.
All though we will always be BLOW INS we have been made to feel at home and treated as a local.
That is the beauty of living in the real old world part of ireland.
Can't say a bad word, as far as my wife and I are concerned it was the best move we ever made.
We love the Irish people and the way of life.
The villagers where we live welcomed us and made the transition great.
All though we will always be BLOW INS we have been made to feel at home and treated as a local.
That is the beauty of living in the real old world part of ireland.
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09 Feb 2007 15:51 #6
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Yes I bough a small tank from them just after my father past away, i had to strip and entire african tank in Bray Co. wick low, bag the fish leave them in a rental car, buy a tank in Fish antics and set it up dechlorinate and heat the water in one after noon as my cousin in firhouse was taking my parents fish but wanted a new tank bringing only the bag water!
The euro had only came in 2 week prious and I paid with a 200 note, they could not believe seeing one, even some of the clients waiting wanted to see it, so I pulled out a 500E noted unheard of December 2001, with all the black money in Majorca, 500E notes were monopoly money then.
The staff in fish Antics were trained in the Agriculture college in Sparsholt college, Hampshire, there was a geek one year fish keeping course running there when I was there, I did the 3 year fish farming course management course which was more fish disease and commercial aquaculture systems, and they knew me, as I was always the trouble maker writing outrageous article in Practical fish keeping, and filling the BT pay phones on campus with 10pence coin adapted with foil to weigh as a 50P.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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Now to to-day in Ireland.
There is only one place to shop Fish AnticsIt is run by Simon Gilroy, he has been in the buisiness many years and like me was a discus fanatic,
He is extreemly knowledgable- his stock immaculate- his shop first class.
He willilngly will keep a fish to one side for a week or so to ensure its condition. he will not sell an iffy fish or coral'
Some say he is expensive . this may be so but you get what you pay for.
I willingly paid some high prices but I was guaranteed first class stock.
Yes I bough a small tank from them just after my father past away, i had to strip and entire african tank in Bray Co. wick low, bag the fish leave them in a rental car, buy a tank in Fish antics and set it up dechlorinate and heat the water in one after noon as my cousin in firhouse was taking my parents fish but wanted a new tank bringing only the bag water!
The euro had only came in 2 week prious and I paid with a 200 note, they could not believe seeing one, even some of the clients waiting wanted to see it, so I pulled out a 500E noted unheard of December 2001, with all the black money in Majorca, 500E notes were monopoly money then.
The staff in fish Antics were trained in the Agriculture college in Sparsholt college, Hampshire, there was a geek one year fish keeping course running there when I was there, I did the 3 year fish farming course management course which was more fish disease and commercial aquaculture systems, and they knew me, as I was always the trouble maker writing outrageous article in Practical fish keeping, and filling the BT pay phones on campus with 10pence coin adapted with foil to weigh as a 50P.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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09 Feb 2007 16:21 #7
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You Are bang on there Jack I think nearly all of Simons staff have been through Colledge or have done the Fisheries course.
I will pass on your regardsto Simon. If you come across Mary Baily give her mine.
I think you must take that into account when making purchases'. Simons staff are an invaluable asset to him. Unlike thoseI have had the displeasure of coming across, that employ part time staff and low wage employees who no nothing of the trade and are only interested in making a living.
I have visited about 6 Tropical / marine shops. 1 Nothern Ireland the rest down here in the south. 1 of them being listed in PFK TFH And Marine world and to be honest the only reason being they pay for the advert regadless of quality which is sadly lacking
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It's a pity the Local Authorities - dept of enviroment - health & safetyetc don't pay more attention to some of the premises. but there again it's income to some one. ( dare I say Brown Envelope brigade)
I will pass on your regardsto Simon. If you come across Mary Baily give her mine.
I think you must take that into account when making purchases'. Simons staff are an invaluable asset to him. Unlike thoseI have had the displeasure of coming across, that employ part time staff and low wage employees who no nothing of the trade and are only interested in making a living.
I have visited about 6 Tropical / marine shops. 1 Nothern Ireland the rest down here in the south. 1 of them being listed in PFK TFH And Marine world and to be honest the only reason being they pay for the advert regadless of quality which is sadly lacking
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It's a pity the Local Authorities - dept of enviroment - health & safetyetc don't pay more attention to some of the premises. but there again it's income to some one. ( dare I say Brown Envelope brigade)
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09 Feb 2007 16:49 #8
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O.K
Having said my piece I think you will see how passionate I am Personaly about the welfare of our fish.
The best advice I can give is
1st a photo iff possible.
The symptom's as you see it.
Your water peram's
Any treatment you have carried out prior to posting & what used ,Theses are Basic, don't try to get to technical.
A few of the most common mistakes is overdosing.
You read on the label so many drops per gallon. a big problem.
Say you have a 40 gal tank. do you treat for 40 gal's???
Don't forget that the substrate takes up a few gal's
If you have Malatangs /Malawi's etc what about all the rock work that is in there.
Remember anything that goes into water dissplaces water
always allow for displacement. Tem'p also has an effect.
Toxic cocktails:
This is a good one .
I tried white spot cure & it didn't seem to work so I tried sterazin folowed byMyaxin and nothing seems to have worked.
Never mix medicatios unless thefirst treatment has ceased and the water filterd through Carbon and some water changes done.
Waite and see before even attempting anything else. and try to re evaluate your prior diagnosis as to why it didn't work
I always abide by an old fashion method of a 2 minute fresh or salt water dip first.
If you have fresh water fish try a salt water dip and vica versa.
Having said my piece I think you will see how passionate I am Personaly about the welfare of our fish.
The best advice I can give is
1st a photo iff possible.
The symptom's as you see it.
Your water peram's
Any treatment you have carried out prior to posting & what used ,Theses are Basic, don't try to get to technical.
A few of the most common mistakes is overdosing.
You read on the label so many drops per gallon. a big problem.
Say you have a 40 gal tank. do you treat for 40 gal's???
Don't forget that the substrate takes up a few gal's
If you have Malatangs /Malawi's etc what about all the rock work that is in there.
Remember anything that goes into water dissplaces water
always allow for displacement. Tem'p also has an effect.
Toxic cocktails:
This is a good one .
I tried white spot cure & it didn't seem to work so I tried sterazin folowed byMyaxin and nothing seems to have worked.
Never mix medicatios unless thefirst treatment has ceased and the water filterd through Carbon and some water changes done.
Waite and see before even attempting anything else. and try to re evaluate your prior diagnosis as to why it didn't work
I always abide by an old fashion method of a 2 minute fresh or salt water dip first.
If you have fresh water fish try a salt water dip and vica versa.
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Hi Russell,
if you are looking for wild discus get on to Fins and things in Midleton. Was over there today. Glen mentioned that he's getting some blue ones in from Brazil. He has one blue discus from Peru at present. The bags opened on the way over and the rest of the order had died. Pity, the one he has is a beauty. By the way he made sure it was feeding before he put it on sale.
I had the discussion regarding salt baths with Anthony in the forum before. I would never do it. Too much stresss on an already stressed fish. It can also a pH shock. It's ok to give bigger fish a salt bath and it is still used today in fish-farming. All my fish are softwater fish which prefer a fairly acidic pH. no way. Never done it in thirty years of fishkeeping and won't start now.
But I do agree that we have to go a long way before most fish stores will be up to scratch.
Holger
if you are looking for wild discus get on to Fins and things in Midleton. Was over there today. Glen mentioned that he's getting some blue ones in from Brazil. He has one blue discus from Peru at present. The bags opened on the way over and the rest of the order had died. Pity, the one he has is a beauty. By the way he made sure it was feeding before he put it on sale.
I had the discussion regarding salt baths with Anthony in the forum before. I would never do it. Too much stresss on an already stressed fish. It can also a pH shock. It's ok to give bigger fish a salt bath and it is still used today in fish-farming. All my fish are softwater fish which prefer a fairly acidic pH. no way. Never done it in thirty years of fishkeeping and won't start now.
But I do agree that we have to go a long way before most fish stores will be up to scratch.
Holger
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10 Feb 2007 21:23 #10
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Hi read this discussion for a while.....
Salt baths are fine, but what are you dipping a fish for??? without doing a "scrape"???? If you want to cure a suspected parasite you need to do this to know what you are dealing with!!! dont get me wrong, salt is a great method, but you could be stressing a fish for no reason!!
Salt baths are fine, but what are you dipping a fish for??? without doing a "scrape"???? If you want to cure a suspected parasite you need to do this to know what you are dealing with!!! dont get me wrong, salt is a great method, but you could be stressing a fish for no reason!!
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11 Feb 2007 03:38 #11
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Salt baths work on bigger fish if the pH of the salt bath is the same as what they have come from, like wise marine can have freshwater baths if the pH is 8 or so, in the wholesale environment fresh/marine freshwater baths not commonly used, formalin and malachite green combined together can cure a whole range of problems, antibiotics can do the rest, leaving virus untreatable except improving the environment and health index of the fish.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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Hi read this discussion for a while.....
Salt baths are fine, but what are you dipping a fish for??? without doing a "scrape"???? If you want to cure a suspected parasite you need to do this to know what you are dealing with!!! dont get me wrong, salt is a great method, but you could be stressing a fish for no reason!!
Salt baths work on bigger fish if the pH of the salt bath is the same as what they have come from, like wise marine can have freshwater baths if the pH is 8 or so, in the wholesale environment fresh/marine freshwater baths not commonly used, formalin and malachite green combined together can cure a whole range of problems, antibiotics can do the rest, leaving virus untreatable except improving the environment and health index of the fish.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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11 Feb 2007 05:34 #12
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I just dont believe in dips if you dont know what your treating it for, your guessing!! Think its better to do a "mucus scrape" to see if there are any parasites etc. before hand.
Salt is also very good as a supportive with certain meds and treating fungus/ wounds.
Salt is also very good as a supportive with certain meds and treating fungus/ wounds.
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11 Feb 2007 06:17 #13
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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hard for the average hobbyist, with a micro scope, and a little bit of training using a slide, he might end up killing the fish
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I don't think I will bother posting topicsany more.
The reason Proboably the last post. re take a scrape. unless you are competent have the facilitie and can Diagnose this is a stupid general suggestion
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I am against the scrapping, quarantine as long as possible but its a question of economics space and practality for a lot of hobbyist and shops.
I think the guy that wrote that works in a shop and has been properly trained to make the scraping even though it may be a bit over zealous, but that his opinion, so one has to respect it to.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Re disesase
I don't think I will bother posting topicsany more.
The reason Proboably the last post. re take a scrape. unless you are competent have the facilitie and can Diagnose this is a stupid general suggestion
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I am against the scrapping, quarantine as long as possible but its a question of economics space and practality for a lot of hobbyist and shops.
I think the guy that wrote that works in a shop and has been properly trained to make the scraping even though it may be a bit over zealous, but that his opinion, so one has to respect it to.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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I don't think I will bother posting topicsany more.
The reason Proboably the last post. re take a scrape. unless you are competent have the facilitie and can Diagnose this is a stupid general suggestion. for eg take a look at UNTERGASSER's book on Discus health & His Book On FISH DISEASES.
As for taking it to a reliable fish shop Please tell me where they are.
I have 2 Vets who call me asking for help& advice as they are not trained in Tropical & Marine FISH diseases per say.
To suggets that some one does there own scraping is asking for trouble.
To those that can Bravo!!! but don't recomend others to do it .I go with what I know & what works for me .
Funny no one has the answerd the Quarantine question!!!!
The reason Proboably the last post. re take a scrape. unless you are competent have the facilitie and can Diagnose this is a stupid general suggestion. for eg take a look at UNTERGASSER's book on Discus health & His Book On FISH DISEASES.
As for taking it to a reliable fish shop Please tell me where they are.
I have 2 Vets who call me asking for help& advice as they are not trained in Tropical & Marine FISH diseases per say.
To suggets that some one does there own scraping is asking for trouble.
To those that can Bravo!!! but don't recomend others to do it .I go with what I know & what works for me .
Funny no one has the answerd the Quarantine question!!!!
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11 Feb 2007 08:21 #15
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Hi me too!!! did not mean to case any agro!!! Sorry 
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Wouldn`t you need an Electrom microscope to make a proper diagnosis anyway.
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11 Feb 2007 12:27 #17
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You must have deep pockets.
Didn't mean to get up tight. It's mainly I spent a lot of time getting my PhD and get up tight sometimes.
Don't take to much notice . could be a wind up!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't mean to get up tight. It's mainly I spent a lot of time getting my PhD and get up tight sometimes.
Don't take to much notice . could be a wind up!!!!!!!!!!
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11 Feb 2007 16:34 #18
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i quarintine my marine fish but not my freshwater...... for 4 weeks , but if u had the patience 6 weeks im sure would be better, i ve heard 4 weeks is quite sufficient if the fish shows no signs of illness. ps your reef tank was bitchin!
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11 Feb 2007 16:49 #19
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I never quarantine my fish(Don`t have the space) but if I was keeping Discus again I would quarantine them.
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11 Feb 2007 17:41 #20
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I used to for 10 days to 2 weeks. However, got a new 230l tank and have just added fish over the last couple of months with no problems. However, I have a lot of confidence in the two places I bought the fish.
I'm also running a UV steriliser. I realise it's no guarantee, but should help.
I'm also running a UV steriliser. I realise it's no guarantee, but should help.
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It's good to see that there are still responsible members that Quarantine. even a few weeks is better than none. it gives you a chance to observe there behavior. Some dealers have fish in one day and they are sold the next. so they have stress from transportation. stress from transfer into the shop . then stress to your tank all in a few days. this is when the problems occur, thats why even a weeks quarantie will be beneficial. I would far rather observe a fish for a week or two seperate from the main tank than risk having an outbreak in it. it's far easier in the long run to treat one than treating a whole tankful.
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Discus 4-5 weeks. Apistogrammas get their own tank anyway.
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Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.
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The fact of the matter is that most Fishkeepers don't have the space to quaranteen. That's what makes us so reliant on good retailers.
Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.
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13 Feb 2007 08:41 #25
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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13 Feb 2007 08:46 #26
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This was a point I was trying to put across before Christmas...
But I'm not going to repeat myself as I said all I had to say then.
As it's against the Forum's rules to name names if anyone knows of a retailer who does genuinely quarantine stock I would appreciate a PM.
I will just say, though, that I for one would be happy to pay a bit more for fish which have been quarantined, after all,
(and this is a crucial quote now:)
THE MOST EXPENSIVE FISH OF ALL IS A DEAD FISH!!!
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Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re: Fish Diseases
The fact of the matter is that most Fishkeepers don't have the space to quaranteen. That's what makes us so reliant on good retailers.
This was a point I was trying to put across before Christmas...
But I'm not going to repeat myself as I said all I had to say then.
As it's against the Forum's rules to name names if anyone knows of a retailer who does genuinely quarantine stock I would appreciate a PM.
I will just say, though, that I for one would be happy to pay a bit more for fish which have been quarantined, after all,
(and this is a crucial quote now:)
THE MOST EXPENSIVE FISH OF ALL IS A DEAD FISH!!!
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13 Feb 2007 09:26 #27
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Replied by apistodiscus (apistodiscus) on topic Re: Fish Diseases
I thought the rule was that you couldn't say anything bad about a retailer.
Since it's a positive thing if the retailer quarantines I don't see a problem from a libel point of view with naming them.
Since it's a positive thing if the retailer quarantines I don't see a problem from a libel point of view with naming them.
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I always Q fidh for at least 4 weeks if not more. I have two Q tanks, but they are small, so with a couple of large fish I obtained recently I had to stick them into their ultimate homes immeditately and keep my fingers crossed, thankfully I had no problems.
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13 Feb 2007 10:30 #29
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Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re: Fish Diseases
Holger,
I just thought that by implication any not mentioned as quarantining mustn't be.
But anyhow, it would hardly be libellous for someone to say that a retailer doesn't do it...there is nothing that says they have to? (Even though it would be nice if they would).
Anyway, I'm not expecting a flood of PMs on this matter.
John
I just thought that by implication any not mentioned as quarantining mustn't be.
But anyhow, it would hardly be libellous for someone to say that a retailer doesn't do it...there is nothing that says they have to? (Even though it would be nice if they would).
Anyway, I'm not expecting a flood of PMs on this matter.
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13 Feb 2007 21:16 #30
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Replied by Anthony (Anthony) on topic Re: Fish Diseases
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that none of the retailers here quarantine fish.
They might not sell them for a few days but its not really feasable to do so for longer.
They might not sell them for a few days but its not really feasable to do so for longer.
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